Western Bay of Plenty Post Primary Teachers' Association chairperson Jason Smythe says teachers across the region will recommence industrial action after rejecting the government's latest offer.
Secondary school teachers temporarily halted scheduled industrial action last Thursday because the government told them it had an offer that was worth looking at.
Jason says the government's offer did nothing to address teachers' concerns.
Teachers are asking for a four per cent pay rise and better working conditions.
The government's latest offer includes a 0.5 per cent pay increase in the first year, a 1.9 per cent increase in the second year, a one-off payment of $1000 and an additional 3000 middle management allowances worth $1000 each.
Jason says the offer is far from satisfactory.
'Our conditions are the students' learning conditions. That's why teachers are making a stand.”
Industrial action includes rostering home, banning meetings outside normal working hours and a ban on callback days.
Rostering home will ban teachers from teaching all Year 9 students on Wednesday and Year 11 students this Thursday.
Regular bans on teaching various year levels, excluding senior students, will continue until the end of term four.
Jason says the biggest impact on the education system will take place at the start of the 2011 school year.
The ban on callbacks prevents teachers from doing any work outside normal school time, so the weeks of planning teachers would normally carry out before the start of the new school year will not commence until the first day students arrive back.



14 comments
unrealistic
Posted on 19-10-2010 13:00 | By tauranga_toro
in the current economic environment, who got any payrise, 0.5% or other, in the past two years? If the teaching conditions and the interests of the students are their true concern, perhaps they should focus on that. I'm sure there's plenty of people out there who wouldn't refuse even 0.5% at the moment, and that was just in the first year.
Sometimes no teacher is a good thing...
Posted on 19-10-2010 13:19 | By morepork
As an ex-teacher myself, I have some sympathy for the current action. Nevertheless, it is students who really matter and people who take up teaching should consider that. As a 5th form student at Tauranga Boys College, many years ago, I got banned from a certain teacher's class for misbehaving. I had a "free period" while the rest of my classmates did French. At first I was pretty thrilled, but then the thought occurred to my 14 year old brain that I needed a reading knowledge of French for University. I decided to teach myself and applied myself to this task, finding a spare classroom and studying during my "free" periods. At the half year exams I was second in the class and the teacher who had banned me, invited me to rejoin the class. (He was actually an excellent teacher and I bear him no grudge.) I politely declined because I had found I could learn faster on my own outside the controlled classroom environment. At the end of the year, I came top in French. Parents of senior students who may be despairing over the current unrest should take heart. Kids who WANT to learn, will do so; learning is about motivation, good teachers can facilitate it, but they are actually NOT essential. Teachers should think about what constitutes a "profession". In my day, it would have been unthinkable to go on strike, although I realise the world has changed. Instead, if you didn't think it was worth the effort, you left and did something else. When the teaching shortfall starts to bite, teachers become more valued in the community. It is a marketplace just like everything else. Of course teachers should be paid a living wage, but the Government seems to think they are. Just as with the nursing and medical professions, if we don't value our professionals we will lose them. But the professionals need to BE professional and accept that they are not in it for the money.
I agree...
Posted on 19-10-2010 13:36 | By bryceh
with tauranga-toro on this! If the teachers are saying they are "only" in this for better standards for the kids, then why ask for more money at all?? If I am not mistaken the average teachers salary in this country is what, around $40,000 a year?? For this they get to work frontline for 6 hours a day, no weekends, all school holidays off, statutory days off, rostered days off, free school excursions and trips away, etc etc etc. I would consider that hour for hour, the money teachers are paid are adequate. Add to this the fact that a lot more teachers now "Do not" suitably teach our kids, and you have to wonder about "accountability" for standards! I suggest Mr Smythe, that you tell your teachers to get off their lazy ass and start giving the kids what they are entitled to under New Zealand (commonwealth) law, and employ only those people (teachers) that are satisfactorily qualified to provide such. Stop whinging about 4% extra money, and do the job you signed up for!
Stop your moaning
Posted on 19-10-2010 13:47 | By The Godfather
These teachers should stop their moaning and groaning. They're probably lucky to have the jobs they do now.
Teachers Pay
Posted on 19-10-2010 14:23 | By Glen Clova
Welcome to the real world. I don't think the teachers know what a real days work is.
Enough
Posted on 19-10-2010 15:54 | By The author of this comment has been removed.
If I had my way I would sack the lot of them and then re employ under a new individual agreement. I have had a gutsful of these mainly left wing whingers who are already paid well in advance of their contribution to our society - when was the last time you heard that literacy rates had improved? I am sure there are a handful of dedicated hard working teachers in the overall force and yes under individual agreements they could be justly rewarded but the rest of the disgusting parasites would need to prove themselves before re employment. After watching the drunken rabble in the South island burning furniture on the streets and defying a not unreasonable request from the police to modify their actions, is it any wonder that we end up with so many losers in this gold plated job!
Agree with godfather and toro
Posted on 19-10-2010 16:55 | By SpeakUp
Be lucky to have a job. Be lucky that you don't experience a freeze or even cut in wages. And anyone who doesn't like it and wants to squeeze out more living standard, p*** off overseas. There are PLENTY of people who appreciate the living QUALITY of New Zealand.
Good on the Teachers
Posted on 19-10-2010 17:19 | By Burchell
To all of you attacking teachers. Teachers do a lot of behind the scenes work. My wife was a secondary school teacher and she used to come home, have dinner and then go and work in the office till late, but its easy to attack when your ignorant of what really goes on behind the scenes. My wife left and is now running her own business and making better money. Depends what you want, pay peanuts and you get monkey's. And when the economy is going great and everyone is making great gains, teachers will only get their normal modest increases from the Government.
Rob
Posted on 20-10-2010 08:38 | By The author of this comment has been removed.
Burchell - This is exactly the sort of comment we have come to know from this pack of whingers - If, and I am sure she was, such a good and devoted teacher, then she should have pushed for an individual contract and then be rewarded accordingly 'BUT' she knows and you know and we all know that a large block of teachers do not fall into her admirable category! Why such capable people continue to back this left wing, incompetent (the continued levels of illiteracy certainly back that comment) rabble I have no idea. The reason why certain subject teachers go off shore is because they are paid more - the reason why they are not paid more in NZ is because the system is supporting so many losers - you both know this is correct!
Whingers
Posted on 20-10-2010 10:34 | By DRich
The only concerted whinging i hear is from the likes of the envious teacher-slaggers on this page. The adults of the PPTA, however, are negotiating with a combatative minister and her clueless advisors and are standing their ground. As spouse of a college teacher, and myself an ex student-support worker of 3yrs , the level of illogic, and the clear lack of understanding of the modern ed system disturbs me. Crackpots like Rob presuppose that a huge bunch of teachers are rubbish, and would assume that moving to individual contracts would thus increase quality and decrease costs and he arrogantly assumes that indiv teachers wouldn't have pushed for this and voiced a preference for this already. News, my friend - paying market rates for my partner would cost you moaners a shitload more $$$ for her 5 years tertiary study and decade+ of industry experience, so bless the cookie cutter nature of the collective bargaining system. Rob and his fellow 'literacy champion' ilk may also be surprised to know that the bulk of foundation literacy development is handled by primary/int teachers, with or without support from home (shall we go there?) - not the secondary teachers currently at the table. The bulk of my employment time at college was tutoring literacy to Yr 9-11 students: worst case, a year 9 boy who couldn't spell his own surname, I KID YOU NOT! None of these students popped into high school and suddenly unlearned how to read and write, though a heap of staff were dedicated to stopping the 'buck' right there and mopping up the mess... for what reason? To give these students a chance at getting a job/licence...filling out a form...hence any suggestion that secondary teachers are detached from the reality of the workforce/job market is simply more incendiary journo and poli-speak to wind up blowhards like Rob. As for any fool who thinks 6 hours a day 'at the coalface' is such a doddle, have a think about where the lessons come from, the planning and resourcing involved, the time-wasting out of hours pastoral issues of students whose parents are hopeless, the late night marking, the weekends and holidays lost to exam marking, next term prep, and emailing of interested students and parents, the stress of motivating these students (and their families) to address the real world, and 'man up' to their futures...Rob and his whinging cronies might like a taste of that? I doubt it.
Good on the Teachers
Posted on 20-10-2010 10:46 | By Burchell
Well said DRich!!!!!!
I hear you DRich
Posted on 20-10-2010 12:23 | By SpeakUp
However, just to mention two points which are easy forgotten: 1) Whilst I acknowledge that good teachers should earn good money, the funds are depleted. Depleted by self-serving parasitic bureaucracy, administrators, regulators, politicians, consultants, etc. 2) I do feel with teachers uphill battle trying to educate the riffraff kids of riffraff parents. If someone can't write their name in year 9, then it's time for the whole family for a compulsory education camp.
my point
Posted on 20-10-2010 12:58 | By tauranga_toro
and this was my original point - the whole blog is an argument about money! I thought one of the main arguments of the teachers was the conditions for students? I work in the education sector and understand they feel undervalued, but that's the nature of the system and once you're in it long enough to understand that, you either accept it or get out - that's their personal choice. Again, the strikes only really affect one group, and that's the students.
money?
Posted on 20-10-2010 14:10 | By DRich
Sure it's about money - they're negotiating a payrise, with other 'wishlist' points attached as bargaining tools. But it's not a case of either/or - e.g improved conditions - particularly teacher/student ratios will benefit students; retaining outstanding classroom teachers by paying them for teaching (rather than reward them through management-style pay 'units', which actually takes them off the floor), will benefit students. Though with Ann Tolley confirming today that schools are funded at 17 pupils per teacher - when that can be 100% out, in practice - shows the ratio request is a token bargaining tool. Speakup, yep, I share your disdain for the other parasites, many of whom will be at the minister's end of the spectrum, sadly, and they should be aggressively culled. Toro, yep that's fine if you've chosen to lie down and take it, but that's not what I would do in this case. COntrary to the ministry's release, I don't believe students will suffer unduly from missing an hour of some subjects - plenty of exam rev to be getting on with (if they've been angels through the year re notes and study) and if they choose to blame their performances on this it'd be disingenous in the extreme. Another point, re the Yr 9 class pay issue today (nobody got paid for the fullday strike the other week of course) Tolley is saying they'll pay the hour(s) as a sign of good faith, when anyone in the education sector will know first hand it's more to do with the inefficiency of the lumbering pay system that renders the govt unable to simply and accurately dock pay.
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