Treasury states that Total Crown expenses for 2011 were $100 billion and Treaty settlements were $0.5 billion. This is less than 1 per cent of Government spending. Mike Kuipers von Lande claims that defending Treaty settlements is discredited thinking. Treasury figures say he is wrong. Treaty settlements are not a burden to the taxpayer.
Treaty settlements have totalled $1 billion over the past 17 years (Office of Treaty Settlements), not $35 billion as claimed by Mary Brooks.
In this community we have Maori pre-schools, primary schools, a secondary school, tertiary institutes, culture groups, sports clubs, and 22 marae. It is obvious that Maori wish to keep their language and culture alive.
Treaty settlements are not handouts or privileges. They are compensation for land stolen. They go to tribes not individuals. If Maori tribes wish to use settlement money firstly for the survival of their language and culture that is their right.
Individual Maori do not get handouts from Treaty settlements. They get the opportunity to take part in tribal activities. The fact that their ancestry is less than 100 per cent Maori is irrelevant.
He iwi tahi tatou e rua nga tikanga. We are one people two cultures.
Peter Dey, Welcome Bay.
5 comments
UP THE CREEK HERE BRO
Posted on 01-06-2012 17:49 | By PLONKER
Go read the budget report on what the value of handouts are, the numbers you have are just a fraction of the 'consultants" and bluggers department that are at work sucking every day. The real number is closer to $35bn. That does not count the annual gravy train payments to the :"want to haves.
THERE IS NO GRAVY TRAIN
Posted on 02-06-2012 20:03 | By Peter Dey
Office of Treaty Settlements has expenses for the 9 months to 31 March 2012 as $24 million. $35 billion in Treaty settlement spending is fantasy.
Treaty settlements less than 1% of spending
Posted on 03-06-2012 13:44 | By algail
If treaty settlements are 1% of gross spending is that each time the circle of claims come round again and again and again or is current lot of settlements once and for all a final settlement. ? I understand final srettlementds were made some time in the 40s.The 1% may well be what is handed out in land value and cash but I bet a lot more is spent on the argy bargy that goes on to reach those settlements. If we are a one people and two cultures then surely one people own the beaches etc etc and beaches and foreshore should be available without hindrance or cost to all to use in their own cultural ways. In the event of an invasion we would all have to defend those very beaches Of course everything is relevant in any claims climate. Are there any Moriori descendants still around that want claim NZ back from the Maoris? I agree stolen land could be returned but not should. Many blocks of land may well have been taken as a reprisal / fine for some nefarious act or another, land ahd little value in those days.. I wonder can I claim back any fines I may have paid because things have changed since the time I was fined. I sold a house in Wellington 30 years for $35.000 probably worth $500.000 now I wonder should I lodge a claim against that house because I wasn't informed that the house would be worth a lot more in 30 years time and I was not fully informed of that fact so therefore the house was taken from me at an unfair price.. If a block of land was worth a bundle of rifles 150 years ago then that was the going price and that's it deal done and settled. I am not saying that happened I am just making a point. Should one from every country on earth be chasing someone because land was taken following invasions or whatever, claims could go on forever and needs to be sorted once and for all without anyone wanting to deprive anyone from anything?. No country on earth has been a single kingdom since day one they were all wee kingdoms and principalities we don't see for example in England people from every county , town or city that may have once been a small kingdom demanding compensation or having the land back . Please bear in mind the above are simply musings and should be read as such Alastair Bethlehem
HANG ABOUT THIS IS GARBAGE
Posted on 05-06-2012 09:02 | By POCO O POCO
Whats this claim that $1/2 Billion a year is not a gravy train.We were assured previously that the fiscal envelope was a total of $1Billion to settle all Maori claims now it looks like we are paying the troughers half that amount every year.If that isn't a gravy train then it must be a magic goldmine.
Not garbage
Posted on 13-06-2012 17:00 | By Peter Dey
Settlements were $100 million in 2010. So $1/2 billion in 2011 was one year only not every year. Its nowhere near a pig trough yet and not likely to get that way.
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