Gap closes on flag choices

Tauranga artist Timo Rinnali is among those resisting a perceived voter swing in favour of a new flag.

Change the NZ Flag Chairman Lewis Holden says today support for changing the flag is increasing, while support for the existing one is softening.


Timo Rinnali is supporting the current flag.

A poll of 1000 people earlier this month showed 36 per cent of people support changing the flag. Last September support for a new flag was 25 per cent of those polled. Support for the old flag has dropped from 69 per cent to 56 per cent since September 2015.

'This shows New Zealanders are starting to embrace the new flag design because it's more representative of our nation,” says Lewis.

Timo, who submitted his own alternative design for a new flag, remains unswayed.

'This morning, and I might change my mind tomorrow - but this morning I'm thinking I wouldn't change the flag to the one they have chosen as the opposition.

'My problem with the new design, is it's a design. It doesn't tell a story in my opinion. I feel a little bit like perhaps the public were bulldozed into that particular design.”

If there was to be a new flag the new one needed an image that has some connections, like a story board, and without that connection no amount of fancy designs would work.

'I still believe that. I don't know if the new one does it for me, that's all. If there was another design I really believed in, I possibly would have voted for a new flag.

'John Key really promoted that design and really pushed for it. And I think it almost seems that way in my opinion, so it was like a foregone conclusion.

'This morning I'm feeling that I wouldn't vote for change with that particular design. I'm not saying it's wrong to have a new flag but that particular design – I think I prefer the old one.”

Tauranga RSA members are also continuing to oppose the proposed change to the New Zealand flag, says Tauranga RSA general manger Graham Howard.

Commenting on claims that opposition to the flag change is softening, Graham says the membership voted on the stance to take in the flag debate at the annual meeting late last year.

'We asked members at the AGM at the end of last year what our stance would be and the membership voted on it and the stance was keep the flag the same.”

The vote at the national council on the issue was the same, says Graham.

In the first referendum, over 1.1 million New Zealanders voted for the two fern designs and that number is expected to grow in the second referendum next month.

'In our view, a higher turnout in the postal ballot will improve the chance for change.”

A Curia Research poll from 28th January to 2nd February shows support for the new design is growing, says Lewis.

'People are thinking carefully about what's best for New Zealand and there's a mood for change emerging. Feedback shows the main reason for change is preference for the new design and differentiation from Australia's flag.”

The Change the NZ Flag initiative is working on an online campaign to promote the merits of the new flag and encourage people to vote for change.

'We've got some exciting developments over the coming days and weeks, where people will see the benefits of a unique New Zealand identity that's different to Australia's and any other flag.

'We have an opportunity to stamp our own mark on the world, while also respecting our rich and proud heritage. The new flag provides that opportunity.”

The second binding referendum on the New Zealand flag will be held from 3 March to 24 March 2016. New Zealanders will be asked to choose between the current flag and the preferred alternative design selected in the first referendum. The flag that receives the most votes in the second referendum will be the official flag of New Zealand.

These will be postal referendums, so voting papers will be sent in the mail. Only those who are enrolled before voting starts are able to vote in the referendum.

Curia Research conducted the poll of 1000 eligible voters from a selection of 15,000 nationwide phone numbers, from 28 January to Tuesday 2 February 2016. The results are weighted to reflect the overall voting adult population in terms of gender, age, deprivation and area. The maximum sampling error for a result of 50 per cent is +/- 3.2 per cent, at the 95 per cent.

19 comments

democracy ???

Posted on 18-02-2016 07:48 | By Captain Sensible

Democracy .... John Key style. An unwanted $26 million debate on the flag, but then a much needed $140 million shaved off the health budget.


overit

Posted on 18-02-2016 08:39 | By overit

I think its time we had a new flag, but this process has not gone well, the choices limited, and now I am not sure which way to vote. I agree with The Capt. too.


Desparation

Posted on 18-02-2016 09:08 | By Merlin

All the government spin will be evident in the next few weeks to try and swing things towards the John Key folly.Strange how money is available for these things when other(Health)budgets are being asked to take millions cut.He even wore a pin of an unofficial National flag at an International event(TPP signing).Disgusting to our current flag.


WAIT TILL VOTING

Posted on 18-02-2016 09:35 | By Colleen Spiro

AND I think it's more important, we have a new PM


PM Lapel Badge

Posted on 18-02-2016 11:16 | By Corwen

and how come the PM when of official NZ Government business is wearing the "new flag design" as a lapel badge instead of the actual NZ flag???? Should he and other ministers at least be wearing both so we can compare


Short memories

Posted on 18-02-2016 11:36 | By Bigmacnfries

Yeah yeah, we all know it oost $26 million, however that was nothing on the $80 million that Helen Clark spent in the arts, culture and heritage plus ongoing funding increases of over $20 million a year in each of the next three years in 2000


Say No

Posted on 18-02-2016 11:58 | By Merlin

Say no to the flag change.


seesee

Posted on 18-02-2016 12:18 | By SeeSee

A bit of creative accounting going on by national people to try and fool the majority, me thinks.


flogging the flag

Posted on 18-02-2016 12:53 | By Ross01

you want me to vote for a lump of dead bracken lying on black sand? I don't think so Mr Key,This hs also put me off a Key lead Govt next elections


John Key is simply wrong

Posted on 18-02-2016 12:58 | By morepork

... to wear a lapel badge purporting to represent the NZ flag, while on official business. Of course he is entitled to an opinion, but until it is ratified, this is provocative and borders on arrogance. Whatever my personal preferences (for PM or flag) this action is enough to make me vote to retain the current flag.


it is money from the taxpayers.

Posted on 18-02-2016 13:24 | By Captain Sensible

It is important to remember where this money comes from. Not John key. Not the government. It comes from us ripped off taxpayers and squandered as the Nats see fit.


Gap Closing

Posted on 18-02-2016 13:25 | By Kenworthlogger

Keep dreaming!


Last straw

Posted on 18-02-2016 16:46 | By dstewart

This most recent push for Jks choice is the last straw. I will not be bullied into voting for a flag which I feel is a poor choice. Black should never be on a flag. White feather and black roger??? Whoever chose the selection panel was not looking for people who understood flag design. My vote has been affected by the constant coercion from politicians.


More spin

Posted on 18-02-2016 20:31 | By Merlin

Is chairman Lewis Holden being given press releases from the National Party.A Curia Research Poll is strangely curious.


Not Yet

Posted on 18-02-2016 21:22 | By Darren

I'm not anti changing the flag in the future if the right design came along. I'd probably have voted for the the 1834-1840 NZ flag or the Tino Rangatiratanga flag if they were part of the referendum. But they weren't included for some reason. Instead the only real choice seemed to be did I want my koru with red or black trim? I refuse to be bulldozed into a change just to stoke one man's ego, so I'll be voting to keep the current flag.


yeah right

Posted on 18-02-2016 21:28 | By Darren

"In the first referendum, over 1.1 million New Zealanders voted for the two fern designs" Probably because "none of the above" wasn't an option!


Bring It On

Posted on 18-02-2016 21:53 | By Gee9000

Bring on the referendum, I'm voting to change the Flag !!!


Flag it.

Posted on 19-02-2016 09:27 | By SonnyJim

Sigh! The flag committee got so many things wrong that the Australian referendum committee will have learnt a lot at our cost. By default I find myself voting for the existing flag.


Statistics

Posted on 19-02-2016 09:37 | By SonnyJim

1.1 million voted for the two fern flags? Half that number didn't want the other one. Add dissenters to the mix and the proposal is lost.


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