Whether one believes in climate change or not, it is a simple fact that for the last 200 years odd, since the industrial revolution, we have been making machines that suck in cold air and pump out hot air. Since the advance of jet engines, this has accelerated hugely. The number of flights cancelled by adverse conditions gives an indication of the scale.
With mankind determined to wreck the planet's eco systems, it is simply fighting back to try to clean itself.
We can expect more of the same. R McGuiness, Tauranga.
Posted: 09:50am Fri 14 Jan, 2011
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Posted on 19-01-2011 15:54 | By algail
Global warming PSHHHAW. The theories presented by about 50 odd scientists re global warming are flawed to the hilt yet we listen to them and respond the way they want us to respond. Are we sheep or what? There 500 or more scientists out that say 'there is no such thing as global warming as presented by the fifty '. There are so many arguments against the stupidity of the warmists that its not funny. Let's take a look at C02. Well there are swamps round the world and many of them, swamps like the Okefenoke swamp in Florida that pump out more CO2 every hour of every day of every day of the year than all the cars have produced since the first car rolled of the production line, yes every hour. The same swamps can pump out more methane every hour than all the cows or sheep that have ever lived. Methane cannot live in our atmosphere as each flash of lightening burns up millions of tons of it. Funny how we have survived methane down through the millennia. Imagine what it must have been like before the white man killed all the American bison, there were millions of the buggers farting and belching did any creatures die out ? No they didn't. Hey imagine a herbivorous Dinosaur farting and belching methane a few of those in a paddock would create a pretty large cloud of methane did anything die out ? No it didn't. Imagine Africa before the great white hunter go there and the millions of herbivorous grazers were grazing their little hearts and farting and belching all the while. Did anything die out No it didn't. Hey how about a whale or two farting and belching. One large volcanic eruption will release more CO2 in one go than man has ever produced we survived all that didn't we. Imagine what Krakatoa pumped out and our offerings too from Taupo and yet we are here. In the middle ages it was 5 degrees warmer than it is now, we survived that.. Any heating of the planet that could destroy life on his planet will come from the sun not the earth. Our worry should not be warmth it should be physical pollution. The planet has gone through warming and cooling cycles for the millennia and it will continue to do so of its own volition without our puny help. I cant forget the warmist idiot in a tunnel in Alaska pointing out 100s of meters underground how one particular layer had trees and ferns etc evidence embedded in the sediment. One would think that would have turned a light on his head that it used be tropical right there in Alaska and bugger me the Polar bears are still there. Alastair
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Posted on 20-01-2011 15:32 | By TERMITE
Oh dear Algail, you are indeed off track, sallowed the pill, hook, line and sinker on that one. Example: Swamps are in fact sink holes for CO2 all kinds of material goes in and locks up the CO2. To help you with this one, many many years ago (like mega millions of years ago) large amounts of vegetation was buried and stayed buried for a long time (Coal, gas, oil etc) in 100-200 years we have dug up heaps of it and burnt it. Think about where that has gone? Stage one normally would be that trees and so on absorb it and it ends up back in the ground again ... but sadly we are WHACKING them also at a rate faster than they can regrow. End result Carbon stays in the air (as per the scientific readings). Think about it a little longer ...
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Posted on 21-01-2011 15:24 | By algail
Algail may be off your track but not off the real track. We have in fact measured the CO2 being emitted by swamps to back up the figures it's not just saying it, it is experiencing it and testing it. Swamps maybe as you say sink holes for CO2 but it won't stay there. No doubt you have heard of a willow the wisp that is methane gas burning. Trees of course absorb CO2 and they release lots back into the atmosphere by respiration and that old boy is a scientific fact not a fact of fancy. Grass absorbs more carbon than trees another scientific fact. Grass releases all the carbon into the spoil another scientific fact. We should be growing more grass than trees perhaps. I wonder where we would be if we hadn't burnt coal at least the coal came out of the ground, if coal had not been available then every tree on the planet would now be gone used up as firewood or fuel. If one is worried about trees being cut down and fumes from vehicles then get stuck in and campaign for things like Stopping councils and Govt depts. Mowing millions of acres of grass on reserves that in many cases nobody ever uses and plant forests on them, Now there's er good barrow for one to push. Think about the millions of litres of Diesel being saved the man hours the tractor running costs the tyres and so on. As far as whacking them down faster than they can grow does one forget suburbia? Where I used to live in Auckland in a brand new development there were fifteen trees growing on the land, five years later on the same land 1500 trees are growing in the gardens of the new residents. Where I currently live in Tauranga on my half an acre there are at least 100 trees and shrubs mainly trees some of them well over fifty feet all. That's a lot more trees than before the land was subdivided. Also the streets are heavily planted with trees. Alastair
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