Posted: 10:17am Fri 27 Dec, 2013

Come on Brown: Please stand down

Len Brown should stand down from the Auckland Mayoralty - if for no other reason than permitting the presence on his council of un-elected members of a 14 per cent minority group who, by exercising undemocratic voting rights, have made far-reaching decisions on distribution and ownership of land in the Auckland region

Bryan Johnson, Omokoroa.

23 comments

More rubbish from Johnson

Posted on 27-12-2013 12:38 | By robin bell

who clearly does not understand the difference between Natural Democracy and Political Democracy.Maori have an undeniable right to participate in the governance of N.Z.He knows full well this can never be acheived under the terms of his version of Democracy.Thankfully he'll never have it Robin Bell.

14%

Posted on 10-01-2014 17:03 | By Crash test dummies

That makes no sense, the biggest group who moved to NZ is Maori @8%. However I agree with the problem, the consequences are huge and most NZ citizens don't yet realise what's happening here yet.

maori auckland council draft a plan!

Posted on 10-01-2014 19:42 | By crazyhorse

The hypocrisy moves from laughable to dangerous, when our legislators publicly condemn racism, yet consistently pass bills (and have done for decades), that favours one ethnic group. "Racist rorts in draft Auckland Plan the latest" they and their PR consultants can rationalise it all they want with appeals to the 'Five Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi” or how 'Maori are tangata whenua”, but politically segregating people based on their race, is apartheid, however way you dress it up. Racism is wrong when Maori were victims of it, and it is still wrong when Maori are beneficiaries of it. Like the childhood story of The Emperors New Clothes, the public will eventually see through the propaganda and recognise that the system they are creating is in actual fact Apartheid in nature...and all those supporters of it, are therefore by definition...racists

Can't believe you've posted

Posted on 11-01-2014 15:47 | By robin bell

that rubbish again Crazy.Maori participation in local-body decision making,is no threat to anyone.Your mate jaffa has decided to reduce Maori numbers from 14%or so down to 8%.(don't ask how he managed that)so the"threat"you imagine is slowly fading away.Perhaps if you drag yourself away from the boring Aussie outback,and remove your reliance on conspiracy blogs for news of home,you may get a clearer picture of the real N.Z.No Maori threat,no Apartheid,no racist legislation,no "Huge consequences"and no Emporers with New Clothes.The only real threat is the pathetic over reaction of a deluded minority,(that includes you)who seem desperate to introduce ultra right government to N.Z.Maybe then you'll come home Crazy.In a pigs ear you will.Robin Bell.

Racist rorts in draft Auckland Plan

Posted on 11-01-2014 18:07 | By crazyhorse

the Auckland Unitary Plan is drafted such that Maori with local ancestry may run amok decreeing title over any land they covet under the rule 3.3.5.2. Plainly these sorts of rules are calculated to enable Maori to make sweeping claims to control and influence over land anywhere in Auckland. In the process will arise an Auckland-wide Maori-owned industry of ticket-clipping, rent-seeking, danegelding and legalised corruption, imposed on land developers, occupiers, residents and ratepayers under the guise of iwi consultation. Read about it for yourselves. http://www.getfrank.co.nz/editorial/nz-politics/racist-rorts-in-draft-auckland-plan

Thames-Coromandel District Council

Posted on 13-01-2014 16:36 | By crazyhorse

PROPOSED OWNERSHIP TRANSFER OF PAUANUI BEACHFRONT RESERVES AND HARBOUR FRONT RESERVES TO NGATI HEI The Government Treaty Negotiator Mr Mike Dreaver, with co-operation from the TCDC, has offered Ngati Hei a choice of sites around the Coromandel Peninsula. Included in this offer is the entire Pauanui beachfront reserve and Estuary reserve up to and past Tangitarori Lane, EFFECTIVELY "RING FENCING" PAUANUI FROM THE WATER. What right has the Thames-Coromandel District Council got to involved in this, "YOUR BEACH NEXT"

Thames-Coromandel Council

Posted on 14-01-2014 09:08 | By robin bell

thanks for bringing this up crazyhorse.that particular council were responsible for one of the racist rorts you love so much.It happened like this.Great depression time,no money,no proper home and no hope for many Maori or Pakeha.The land owner in question and of course her family suffered the concequences of her inability to read or write or speak English.She was issued notice for payment of rates,a small amount but she didnt have any money and could'nt pay.Years later her son,my father in law,searched and found title to the blocks of land at Whitianga,some on the seafront very valuable land.He was informed with sympathy that the land had been sold to defray rates the new owner was an ex councillor.All this before the Waitangi Tribunal was set up to redress some of these "Racist Rorts"Robin Bell.

Title to the blocks of land at Whitianga,

Posted on 15-01-2014 10:28 | By crazyhorse

If your father in law has deeds of title and all this is proven, then redress should be made, how ever everything I have read said land around this area was sold legally. Henry Hansen Turton's record shows more than 60 land sales deeds for Coromandel, each bearing the names of landowners who either asserted their claim to the land or proved it through a rigorous court process, you have some sharp operators at your disposal I see Dreaver, who was happy to negotiate away beach front reserves in a treaty settlement, last year was named the top-earning treaty negotiator, earning $1.5-million in fees since 2008.

Treaty cases earn top dollar for 'top team'

Posted on 15-01-2014 10:33 | By crazyhorse

"Settling justifiable Maori grievances is one thing, but National has turned the settlement process into something ugly - a gravy train to financially benefit their chosen ones," Peters said. Finlayson released details of the payments in response to parliamentary questions from Peters about who the Government had appointed to assist with Treaty negotiations since taking office in 2008 and how much they had been paid. The answers reveal that $5.5m has been paid to 14 individuals in that time, several of them former Cabinet ministers and MPs. The highest earner was Michael Dreaver, director of Auckland consultancy firm The Policy Shop, who earned $1.5m for working on more than 20 settlements in the Auckland and Hauraki regions. His partner is TVNZ presenter Miriama Kamo. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8314679/Treaty-cases-earn-top-dollar-for-top-team

You just don't get it Crazy,

Posted on 15-01-2014 20:41 | By robin bell

and you never will.I did'nt claim what happened was illegal.Most of the theft that occured was deemed legal at the time.No Crazy it was IMMORAL.I don't expect you to understand,you clearly don't.My father in law died before the renaissance bought about by the Waitangi Tribunal.That body you hate so much.Your folk hero Allan Titford put paid to claims by individuals over now private land.Rest assured Crazy my family have turned their negative into a positive,unlike you,your disrespect,disregard and dislike of the effort being made to redress this immorality suggests you are a gutless bully.And hey!! you don't even live in N.Z.when you reply Crazy,why don't you tell us all about Raglan and all the other hundreds of similar cases.After all you'r the expert,right.Robin Bell.

SETTLE DOWN BELL

Posted on 16-01-2014 08:19 | By crazyhorse

I have never said I'm against settling "fair dinkum" maori claims,I wish you and your family well, the problem I have is with the treaty industry in general, for every honest claim there is a dozen bull #### ones, the TOW industry is like a snow ball rolling down a steep hill gathering more greedy and dishonest people on the way down, the trouble is I cant see the hill ever ending Mr Bell. As I have said, I wish your family well but you Mr Bell, I will continue to "pull your chain" cheers cobber!.

Look out Wikileaks

Posted on 16-01-2014 08:32 | By robin bell

We now have a new phenomena "Crazyleaks"Problem is this latest source of (really important information)has no mind of his own.One conspiracy blog after another,tut tut.Sadly for you Crazy you just can't get past the fact that heaps of land was stolen.Michael Dreaver,according to you has earned 1.5mil helping to settle 20 thefts.That amounts to $75000 per settlement give or take.I think your jealous Crazy.Most people would proberbly agree tht in this day and age that is reasonable.In any event its peanuts compared to the value of land stolen.By the way Henry Hansen Turton died in 1887 bit difficult to see how he could have known anything about thefts in the 20th century.As for Peters,he's got no credibilty ask Brendan Horan.Robin Bell.

Don't flatter yourself Crazy,

Posted on 16-01-2014 17:24 | By robin bell

'Fair Dinkum' is not for you to decide.That is for people of intelligence,sorry Crazy you don't qualify,if you did you wouldn't rely on creative bloggers to do the job for you.Your statement,only'one in a dozen'claims are valid is indicative of your ignorance on the subject.I will 'settle down' as you put it,when you stop posting rediculous misinformation.Do we have a deal?Why not hop on a Quantas flight Crazy,come home and smell the Roses.If you can't put on your big hat and rattle your corks for a while.It just might clear your head of all that dross.Robin Bell.

DIRTY HARRY

Posted on 16-01-2014 20:48 | By crazyhorse

Your like Clint Eastwoods character dirty harry, your a legend in your own mind, the facts written over 100 years ago from people that wrote about it that were there matter no more. the only thing that matters now is the "industry" we have proven "SOME" TOW claims have been settled with false or doctored history, now air, water, radio waves, air space,as much money as you can get as long as you don't have to work for it, big iwi business doesn't even pay tax and your girl friend Finlayson say's treaty settlement is good for the economy

SMOKE AND MIRRORS

Posted on 16-01-2014 21:54 | By crazyhorse

Used to hide all the untruths and modern myth supplied by highly paid "revisionist" historians, all paid by the TOW tribunal, that means paid for by kiwi tax payers, roll up, roll up, any history you want, for a large fee or Gov't job. Even if you never lived in that area, nudge nudge wink wink, we can "revise" we have a deal for you, we just need to clear it with "our" man Finlayson,

C'MON CUZZ!! Jackson sues over Maori board selection

Posted on 17-01-2014 17:24 | By crazyhorse

So lets get this right, how many maori boards are we paying for, this is Monty Python stuff!. Willie Jackson is taking legal action after failing to secure one of two urban Maori positions on the Independent Maori Statutory Board, which provides advice to the undemocratic unelected maori board on the Auckland Council , so this board of elected maori gives orders to the unelected board, I wonder if there is a governing elected board giving advise to the elected board to pass on to the unelected board, all on $53,000 a year" halaluya" I'v seen the light!!!. And the punch line is, wait for it campers!. Big Willie wasn't happy with the "process of the selection body', "AS I DIDN'T GET PICKED SO I'M NOT GUNA GET $53,000, I'M SPEWING!!!!!" What about the process of selection on the unelected board for Auckland council, who's suing there?, eh anyone?

A short lesson for Crazy horse,

Posted on 18-01-2014 17:29 | By robin bell

Written history from the 19th century is highly suspect.Robert Edwin PEARY,Dr David LIVINGSTONE and the great CLIVE of India and many others.Have been shown to have lied in dispaches.Why?To protect their reputations,to secure sponsorship,to impress, who knows,who cares,Its the reason why history is by nature"revisionry".If you need further examples check out Raglan,Wigram,Bastion Point,Bay of Islands,Whitianga I could go on but in typical fashion you'll ignore it.Its what we expect from your average ocker.Robin Bell.

creative bloggers to do the job for you

Posted on 18-01-2014 21:48 | By crazyhorse

Mr Bell I haven't used any info from so called "conspiracy blogs",for 3 comments now, just from me all me!, where have you gone? I'm just trying to do the right thing, you complain I use other peoples [facts], now its just me,and you disappear, your a very hard man to make happy, you say people need to be educated, that means facts. Oh! Mr Bell,oops, I get the idea "now" "SORRY I DON'T WORK LIKE THAT!!!.

To protect their reputations,to secure sponsorship,

Posted on 19-01-2014 18:26 | By crazyhorse

Well said Mr Bell, you have described your revisionist historians perfectly. Well paid in good gov't jobs, hows "DAME" Orange enjoying the top job at Te Papa "our place" plenty of revisioning to be done there eh?.

Its not the Historians

Posted on 19-01-2014 21:43 | By robin bell

who are suspect,its history itself.Unlike you crazy who rely on non historians like er,lets see Robinson-mathematics.Round-lawer.Ansell-advertising and treatygate blogger.I could go on but whats the point?When you rely on your own 'intelect' you fail miserably.You have consistently insulted the Maori people and anyone else who dares to challenge your pre-conceptions and prejudice.If you really want to do the 'right'thing you'll forget trying to become the hero of the ultra right,and take up Lawn Bowls or something to get you away from your obsession with conspiracy.

FAIR SUCK OF THE SAUCE BOTTLE!!

Posted on 19-01-2014 21:49 | By crazyhorse

Good on ya cobber, You and your people can continue to live in the world of 160 yrs ago. It is an attitude that doesn't appear to have served "average" Maori very well, that's your choice. The rest of us "ignorant, culturally insensitive" people will continue to look to the future rather than "lamenting the past". There is a rising from a population fed up with a section of the community who see themselves as entitled, special and not required to strive for their own advancement, "disrespecting" benefits this Country provides for all. They wish to see Maori pull themselves out of the hole they have dug for themselves, to take advantage of the "billions"and"billions of dollars that has come their way, all at huge cost to [" other New Zealanders"] "share" the services that are available to all. Enjoy "our" great country, get a life!!.

Crazyhorse refuses

Posted on 19-01-2014 22:05 | By robin bell

to discuss proven modern thefts of Maori land Why?These thefts are by far the best pointer to the activities of the Crown and some individuals over the last 100yrs or so.They are indisputable!!The industry that surrounds the claim process is no fault of Maori.The need to settle is indisputable.Crazyhorse and the people he champions are using these issues to further their own political ends.Robin Bell.

Crazy Horse

Posted on 20-01-2014 16:59 | By robin bell

continues his merciless slandering of Maori and those connected to setlement process.Bouncing from the 19th century to the 21st like there was nothing in between.There is no vision in his caustic commentary,no thought for the dignity of future generations.Maori or Pakeha.Keep it up crazy horse,your on your own.N.S.W.is the best place for you,maybe you can persuade some of your mates to join you over there.Robin Bell.

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