Posted: 12:00pm Fri 13 Dec, 2013

Freedom suppressed?

In the wake of Nelson Mandela's death many NZ anti-tour protesters conveniently omit mentioning they practised a form of moral apartheid on their countrymen who held different views, by denying them their civil rights via blocking highways, sealing off access roads and attacking television and radio outlets, damaging public properties and intimidating non-protesters.
They censored the individual judgment of others and believed they could gain freedom for the blacks in Africa by suppressing the freedom of those at home.
About this time the Bolshoi Ballet was touring the country; and if the Springboks could be said to represent the South African Government, then surely the Bolshoi equally represented a Communist regime that held all of Eastern Europe in virtual slavery. Where were the protests against them, from John Minto and his minions?

Bryan Johnson, Omokoroa.

29 comments

Ok

Posted on 13-12-2013 16:15 | By Johnnyredneck

That is a pretty desperate comparison.

so true

Posted on 14-12-2013 13:54 | By [email protected]

how many of those people that protested against the apartheid in South Africa support the apartheid system in New Zealand. Ian Brougham Wanganui

Why Kiwis must stop fawning to the shrill cries of Maori

Posted on 14-12-2013 17:51 | By crazyhorse

"Thousands of people in this country left South Africa to get away from apartheid, only to find New Zealanders gagging to constitutionalise it." read all about it http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/why-other-kiwis-must-stop-fawning-shrill-cries-maori-rv-134626#comment-601888

Misinformation.

Posted on 15-12-2013 11:31 | By robin bell

The thousands of S.Africans coming to N.Z.actually have come to escape black dominated democracy.N.Z has white dominated democracy,much more to thier liking.We have no Apartheid in N.Z.Crazyhorse and the barbarian know this,but continue to attempt to misinform people.Robin Bell.

WELCOME TO APARTHEID NEW ZEALAND

Posted on 15-12-2013 16:30 | By crazyhorse

The hypocrisy moves from laughable to dangerous, when our legislators publicly condemn racism, yet consistently pass bills (and have done for decades), that favours one ethnic group. "Racist rorts in draft Auckland Plan the latest" they and their PR consultants can rationalise it all they want with appeals to the 'Five Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi” or how 'Maori are tangata whenua”, but politically segregating people based on their race, is apartheid, however way you dress it up. Racism is wrong when Maori were victims of it, and it is still wrong when Maori are beneficiaries of it. Like the childhood story of The Emperors New Clothes, the public will eventually see through the propaganda and recognise that the system they are creating is in actual fact Apartheid in nature...and all those supporters of it, are therefore by definition...racists

Separatism alive and well in the health system

Posted on 15-12-2013 16:35 | By crazyhorse

The steady creep toward separatism continues. In a recent advertisement seeking a new chief executive for the New Zealand Nurses Organisation, the preamble stated that [the] NZNO 'embraces Te Tiriti O Waitangi”. It went on to explain: 'Te Runanga o Aotearoa comprising our Maori membership is the arm through which our Te Tiriti o Waitangi partnership is articulated”. The ad then listed some of the attributes sought in the appointee. These included 'a proven track record of successful implementation of Te Tiriti O Waitangi within an organisation”. But hang on a minute. The Treaty was between the Crown and the signatory tribes. It was about sovereignty and governance. What relevance could it have to the running of the nurses' union? http://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/karl-du-fresne-separatism-alive-and.html

Call to sack academic over 'racism'

Posted on 15-12-2013 21:36 | By crazyhorse

A Maori academic says immigration by whites should be restricted because they pose a threat to race relations due to their "white supremacist" attitudes. The controversial comments come in response to a Department of Labour report, obtained exclusively by the Sunday Star-Times, which found Maori are more likely to express anti-immigration sentiment than Pakeha or any other ethnic group. Margaret Mutu, head of Auckland University's department of Maori studies, agreed with the findings and called on the government to restrict the number of white migrants arriving from countries such as South Africa, England and the United States as they brought attitudes destructive to Maori. How does a racist end up in head of dept in a university, what poison is she spreading, what is the university doing about this.

The Seperatism,

Posted on 16-12-2013 12:55 | By robin bell

Crazyhorse refers to is not seperatism at all,much less apartheid.The articulation of Maori rights are no threat to anyone.The Treaty was indeed between the Crown and Maori,and the Crown failed miserably in its implementation.The injustice thus created is now being addressed.Once again no threat to anyone.To claim this redress is racism is narrow minded and further proof of Crazyhorses inadequate grasp on reality,fostered by his obsession with ultra rightwing propaganda,and sugestive conspiracy blogs.Robin Bell.

Bellspin

Posted on 16-12-2013 15:27 | By Mike Kuipers von Lande

We all (including Mr Bell) know that our country is in the grip of appalling Maori racism even if like Mr. Bell some choose to pretend otherwise. To return to the original letter, it is a sad fact that many of those protesting in 1981 were simply out to get their kicks by acting out their violence and vandalism behind the front of a legitimate protest issue. Think how much more effective and positive the protest would have been if they had lined the streets to the stadiums grimly, passively and silently. Pro tour spectators would have been very uncomfortable and had a hard time not feeling shamed. No one would have been hurt, no damage would have been done and the protest would have attracted people turned away by the violence that occurred.

Oh dear

Posted on 16-12-2013 19:29 | By Johnnyredneck

I am not sure why most responses seem to think NZ has an Apartheid system that favors Maori? They die earlier, get paid less, suffer from more diseases, are more likely to go to jail, attain lower qualifications etc. The " favoritism" you bleat about seems to me to be a feeble attempt at addressing the imbalance.

Mike Kuipers von Lande,

Posted on 16-12-2013 20:58 | By robin bell

claims "we are in the grip of appalling Maori racism".Racism can only be practiced by a dominant,governing or controlling group.Perhaps Mr.Kuipers von Lande can give a definative example of such practise by a 15% minority group.In 55yrs of living in a bicultural family,I have never witnessed the racism he refers to.Passive demonstrations were tried and ignored in the fight against the racist Apartheid regime in S.Africa.It was only when the world demanded its dissolution,that things changed.Those who preferred to excercise thier right to play sport,whilst ignoring the plight of the black majority held in virtual slavery,had that right and exercised it.Robin Bell.

White pacifiers

Posted on 16-12-2013 22:15 | By Mike Kuipers von Lande

Our country is the only country in the world where the majority of citizens passively allow themselves to be raped and pillaged of universally held resources by a racist minority. Any other country would be in the grip of civil war like Syria is or South Africa was. The point about the Springbok tour is that the violence exhibited by the protesters allowed the tour supporters to feel justified as a stand against this violent attempt to remove their rights. Had there been no violence, just quiet condemnation, the supporters would have lacked for much of the motivation they used to continue the battle

OH DEAR JOHNY AND ITS STILL NOT ENOUGH

Posted on 16-12-2013 22:23 | By crazyhorse

Over the years, the inclusion of ethnic privilege into government policy has led to a rapid increase in the rights of Maori over other citizens resulting in an exponential growth of race-based initiatives including: Maori-only schools and education scholarships, Maori-only housing projects, Maori-only health prioritisation and initiatives, Whanau Ora and other Maori-only welfare initiatives, Maori-only prisoner programmes, Maori-only positions on government agencies, Maori-only consultation rights under the Resource Management Act, Maori-only co-management of parks, rivers, lakes, and the coastline, Maori-only tax rates - 17.5 percent tax for iwi corporations instead of the 28 percent corporate tax rate, with tax-free status for those that can convince authorities that their business is based around a marae, Maori-only seats on local councils, Maori-only seats on local councils, Maori-only local government Statutory Boards, Maori-only local government liaison committees, Maori seats in Parliament.

Compliments from Kuipers von Lande

Posted on 17-12-2013 11:37 | By robin bell

Don't come often,so I feel very priveliged.You're right Mikey I am a white pacifier and proud to be.The"universally held resources"you claim are being"raped and pillaged"were stolen by people like you.The majority in N.Z.know the truth of it.Perhaps they prefer to settle these matters rather than allow them to fester.The "racist minority"you refer to(Maori)are getting no more than thier rights as co founders of N.Z.and 15%of the population.Johnnyredneck sums it up well.All parties during the 1981 tour were guilty of violence,including the players.So what!its called the human condition.Check out what the leader of the red squad,(Ross Maeurant)now feels about it all.You will be shocked. Robin Bell.

Welcome to Crazy's Apartheid.

Posted on 17-12-2013 14:56 | By robin bell

Quote,"racism is wrong when Maori were victims of it,and it is still wrong when Maori are beneficiaries of it".So crazy are we to assume that the admittance of racism against Maori is to be ignored,and simply move on into a future dependant on Maori foregivness.Get real crazy!!You need to read the blogspots you so frequently copy.Even Karl du Fresne admits he, like many journo's know a little of many things,but not enough about anything.Another gem from Karl,"Opinion is never cheaper than when you can join the shrill chorus of condemnation without having to identify yourself.Wise words Crazy,you of all people should take note.Robin Bell.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE ROBIN

Posted on 17-12-2013 18:33 | By crazyhorse

An author of a popular Maori children's book series was excluded from entering a national library award because she is white. Te Reo Singalong creator Sharon Holt was told she could not enter the Te Kura Pounamu Award for children's literature because she had no Maori blood.

An Apartheid Horror File, WELL WORTH READING

Posted on 17-12-2013 18:44 | By crazyhorse

Examples of race-based policy and funding statements from Cabinet Ministers since April 2003. http://www.freeradical.co.nz/apartheid2003/index.php

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmond Burke.

Posted on 21-12-2013 21:29 | By crazyhorse

MAORI NATION - WHAT MAORI NATION? We should all be very concerned with the co-Leader of the Maori Party, Hon Pita Sharples opening statement during his speech at Waitangi,”This evening I wish to discuss the State of the Maori Nation'. What Maori Nation? Statements like this are a cancer within our society; there has never been a Maori Nation! This is more dangerous than anything we have ever seen before, especially with the re-writing of our Constitution with Sharples at the helm. It will be slipped in to our Constitution as the Principles and Partnership were slipped in to our legislation three years before they were defined or the public had any knowledge of them. If we are not extremely careful, we will be conned again, the Maori Nation will become a large part of our new Constitution!

National start the aparteid creep in draft Auckland Plan

Posted on 21-12-2013 21:57 | By crazyhorse

There are some racist gems to unearth in the draft plan. For example in the rules section, Maori land rule 4.4.5.1.2 Notification states, 'Discretionary activities in the Maori Land overlay will be considered without public or limited notification, or the need to obtain written approval from affected parties, unless special circumstances exist in accordance with s. 95A(4) of the RMA that make notification desirable.” The Maori land overlay is comprised of areas drawn in with a violet outline on maps supplied with the draft plan, and can be seen overlaid on Bastion Point, for example. It seems asymmetric that Maori can skip notifying the public or gaining written approval from affected parties for their own discretionary activities, when they would be very likely to demand these same rights for themselves over any other party's discretionary activities.

Defining good men,

Posted on 24-12-2013 13:13 | By robin bell

is the challenge Crazy.You ask"what Maori Nation?"Actually you may be the cancer you claim exists.Websters Universal gives Nation as,a group of people who form or once formed an ancient national unity,though at present either geographically scattered(Jewish Nation)or forming part of a larger national unit(Scottish,Welsh nations)but still presenting distinguishing racial and other characters such as seperate religion or language.So you see Crazy Dr Sharples is correct and yet again you are wrong.Robin Bell.

Defining The Real Truth Unlike Sorry Apologists

Posted on 25-12-2013 12:26 | By crazyhorse

If there had been a Maori Nation in 1840, the Treaty of Waitangi would have been signed by their head of state or representative, not 500 individual chiefs. 'If you think these things are wrong, then blame your ancestors who gave away their rights when they were strong "Sir Apirana NGATA". On the 25 November 1947, New Zealand adopted the Statute of Westminster, which granted complete autonomy to New Zealand in foreign as well as domestic affairs and all the people of New Zealand became New Zealand Citizens under one sovereignty and one law. It would be difficult to have a Maori Nation today based on, the distinct race of people that signed the Tiriti o Waitangi in 1840, as this race of people no longer exists. As Maori have continued to intermarried of their own free will, they are now, 'a mixed race of people of many cultures”,"NEW ZEALANDER

Not correct Crazyhorse

Posted on 26-12-2013 09:55 | By Peter Dey

Crazyhorse seems to think that people can belong to only on race. People can have both German and French ancestry. The German and French races both exist despite intermarriage. The Maori race still exists despite intermarriage. Because the Maori race and language still exists, as Robin Bell points out, the Maori nation still exists. Crazyhorse's fear that Maori activists, who make up 5% of the population, will take control of New Zealand is an irrational fantasy.

Using the Race Card for Theft and Extortion and Sympathy

Posted on 26-12-2013 12:44 | By crazyhorse

This is a story of how certain Maori executive of Ngai Te Rangi Iwi and others including their accountant robbed not just $37m but an additional $38m- a total of $75m, by fraud, extortion, perjury and murder to achieve their aims to self profit at others expense. The documents and links need to be read and understood in a date sequence so that you can see where the various people stood at different times, and how they changed from say accountant or Chairman of the tribe to witness and or hidden shareholder. The documents shown or linked are just a small sample of some 110,000 references. Note- these issues are complex and lengthy- http://lawisanass-wingate.blogspot.com.au/2011/03/matakana-island-trust-fraud.htm

Crazyhorse has no credibility

Posted on 26-12-2013 17:15 | By Peter Dey

Crazyhorse produces never ending information critical of Maori as though all of it is total truth when it is not . It seems that he wants to persuade us that Maori are all bad and should all be treated badly. The reality is that Maori and Pakeha are both good and bad, race relations in New Zealand are improving all the time, and Maori are now receiving long overdue justice that only an obsessed minority like Crazyhorse objects to.

No season of goodwill

Posted on 27-12-2013 10:22 | By robin bell

for Crazyhorse,how sad.You believe you are defining truth by quoting blogspots written by so called"creative writers".(that title in itself should be a warning.)Apartheid in N.Z.Thousands of S.Africans coming to N.Z.to escape it,seven previous cultures,a Chinese explorer dropping a few Maori off,Allan Titford a folk hero,sea shells as proof of pre Maori cuture.Where will it all end Crazy?You seem determined to prove the truth of your nickname.Remember your old school motto,and purge the miasma of your narrow mind.A new years resolution along the lines of Nelson Mendela's philosophy would be nice.I know Crazy,Pigs can't fly.Happy new year anyway.Robin Bell.

Over it Crazy Bryan Johnson

Posted on 29-12-2013 11:01 | By Dollie

Why does sunlive always publish articles by Bryan Johnson in Omokoroa? About three or four people constantly expand on his view at length. Thankfully many more disagree with these extreme views. Crazyhorse is becoming more and more crazy. I can hear him pounding his keyboard. Successive governments hold a similar view over treaty issues and unless we become a republic, they will continue to do so. That will be up to the people of New Zealand. Crazyhorse is getting boring.

METHINKS THE TRUTH IS THIS

Posted on 31-12-2013 21:54 | By CONDOR

"When plunder(welfare/handouts)becomes a way of life for a particular group in society over the course of time they create for themselves an expectation plus a legal/political system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it".And folks this has been the case in NZ since 1975 !!!

When a particular group,

Posted on 01-01-2014 11:51 | By robin bell

become afraid of a minority,who have political,social and economic rights they react by attacking the minority.They attempt to create fear and panic amongst the majority,most of whom prefer to settle these matters.In the process they invent anything their twisted "reasoning" can conjure up.They manipulate the "truth"in order to confuse and frighten.And this folks has been the case in N.Z. AND THE WORLD since time began Robin Bell.

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Posted on 01-01-2014 16:01 | By robin bell

Welfare was not introduced for a particular group,it encompasses all of N.Zs society.Some recipients may well create an expectation for themselves,but have not and can never have the power to introduce a"legal/political"system to authorise it.This is yet more rediculous fearmongering from a seriously deluded fool.As for "plunder",you can not be serious!You need to check the history of your own people.Robin Bell.

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