Stop crying Victim

Peter Dey [ 2.8.13] kiwis are also paying millions over and above the so called settlement claims, because Maori collect more again on the dole, DPB, Claim more on the health system, in jail the list goes on. Don't give us the ‘Colonisation' rubbish either kiwis including Maori ALL can say our ancestors came here on a boat, remember, none of us are indigenous!

For Maori it's all about keeping that ‘gravy train' going. Yes 1865 the British confiscated land from Maori they were told this would happen if they kept on fighting, killing and eating people after the 1940 Treaty, but they carried on. A few years later land was returned to Maori. The Chiefs loved this and promptly started selling the land again, because they received a lot of money for it. This has continued to happen; Maori sell their land then cry ‘Victim' and get it returned. It happened again in the early 1900's, but after 1975 when the Waitangi Tribunal was set up the ‘Gravy Train' really got started.

No other race in the world has ever had compensation like Maori and they were never mistreated badly like some countries, Scotland, as one person mentioned and their persecution went on for 100's of years, land confiscated and no compensation. Maori were saved by the British as Te Kooti and Te Rauparaha were systematically going through the country killing and eating all people and the rest of us are to recompense for all that!

So what you say about kiwis still collecting, well you are one of those too Mr Dey collecting, so you are double dipping wanting it both ways and creating Apartheid along the way.

C Humphreys, Katikati.

11 comments

Bad news

Posted on 13-08-2013 13:49 | By robin bell

Latest survey 80% N.Zrs happy with thier lot.That puts you and your mates somwhere in the 10% Keep smiling. Robin Bell.


Dont confuse him

Posted on 13-08-2013 14:56 | By Fonzie

with facts neither he or his treatyist mates can deal with facts they just ignore them


Good to see

Posted on 13-08-2013 17:49 | By Te Ponui

such expertise in Maori history. And yet the grievance process continues.


Storm gathering

Posted on 14-08-2013 08:14 | By Mike Kuipers von Lande

The contempt and deceit shown by tribal Maori towards the rest of our citizens continues to grow and the wounds caused fester and grow in tandem. The theft and fraud created will need to be redressed. The longer this direction is held, the harder will be the road back.


BAD NEWS FOR YOU BOBBY

Posted on 14-08-2013 19:45 | By crazyhorse

80% of kiwi are happy with their lot,that's their lot Bobby!!! not your lot, on a regular bases in polls, 80% percent of kiwi are not happy at all with your lot, special this, special that, we want this, we want that,wake up and smell the coffee, be a good apologist and tell the truth.


Crazy horsy

Posted on 14-08-2013 22:03 | By Plonker

Agreed, 80% and more and some. The claim-ites are feasting and it is being seen for what it really is.


Bovver Boys.

Posted on 15-08-2013 10:08 | By robin bell

Here come the Bovver boys,out in force.Fonzie,Plonker and Crazyhorse.You should be real pleased Mike you have some powerful back up there.Contempt,Deceit,Theft,Fraud and Festering wounds.Congratulations you have FINALLY described what Maori people have had to endure in the last 200 years or so.Maybe its your turn now,or just maybe we are all on the road back.Not the bovver boys though sadly they are stuck in the 10% ah!well perhaps they are happy groveling in thier discontent.Are you Mike? Robin Bell.


ONLY MAORI ARE INDIGENOUS

Posted on 16-08-2013 23:18 | By Peter Dey

C.Humphreys is wrong when he says that none of us are indigenous. The United Nations describes indigenous people as the descendants of the original inhabitants of a land. The scientific radiocarbon results of Janet Wilmshurst show that Maori were the first inhabitants of New Zealand about 1250 AD. This research is endorsed by the National Academy of Sciences of the United States, the official scientific adviser to the US Government. Maori are indigenous to New Zealand.


THERE IS NO GRAVY TRAIN

Posted on 16-08-2013 23:25 | By Peter Dey

C.Humphreys is repeating unproven mud slinging when he describes Treaty settlements as a Gravy Train. The Government budget is $100 billion a year. The cost of Treaty administration and settlements is less than $1 billion a year. This is less than 1% of Government spending. Lawyers and educated researchers cost money. This does not make them a Gravy Train.


PLEASE DO NOT DISHONOUR THE WORD APARTHEID

Posted on 16-08-2013 23:33 | By Peter Dey

C.Humphreys describes Treaty compensation as Apartheid. Apartheid was a political system in South Africa where the white minority had complete political control and discriminated against the black majority. This is now regarded as an evil system. Maori can never have complete political control in New Zealand, so describing anything in New Zealand as Apartheid is ignorant mud-slinging.


PLEASE DO NOT MISUSE THE WORD APARTHEID

Posted on 17-08-2013 14:21 | By Peter Dey

Use of the word apartheid in New Zealand is absurd. Maori make up 15% of the population. They would have to control Parliament, the army, and the police, and non-Maori would have to sit back and do nothing before we had apartheid in New Zealand. This clearly is never going to happen.


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