Human Rights in boardwalk spat

The Human Rights Commission is being involved in a spat over remarks made at a presentation on the proposed Pilot Bay boardwalk.

Councillor Tony Christiansen, who uses a wheelchair, is taking a complaint about remarks made by resident Colleen Spiro at a meeting on the boardwalk in Tauranga City Council Chambers this week, and her anti-boardwalk Facebook page, to the Human Rights Commission.

Councillor Tony Chirstensen supports the proposed Pilot Bay boardwalk.

During her presentation opposing the boardwalk council intends to build along Pilot Bay Colleen listed speeding wheelchairs as one of the dangers faced by children playing across the other side of the boardwalk on the beach.

Colleen stated children could impulsively rush back across the boardwalk to their parents sitting on the grass.

“We are talking about older children,” says Colleen. “Children act impulsively. If something happens they don’t think.

“They will just rush back to where they are, and they are not going to be looking out for wheelchairs, pushchairs, joggers or bikes so there’s the potential there for accidents.”

While explaining while the grass along the shoreline should be retained, Colleen referred to a photo of a woman in a wheelchair on the grass.

“There’s a wheelchair there and she’s able. We have been told by quite a few people it’s not impossible to get a wheelchair up there.”

Colleen added that when she had a broken ankle her husband was able to push her wheelchair along Pilot Bay, ‘no problem’.

 “It’s not just young mothers but grandmothers pushing pushchairs, so it can’t be that difficult.”

Tony told Colleen at the meeting there were several things in her presentation that personally offended him. He said she was not allowing people with disabilities the same rights as an able bodied person.

“I have lived in Tauranga all my life, 54 years of it. I’m as passionate about it as you are. So you aren’t anything special other than you believe in something differently, or see life differently than I do. I have scaled the heights, the fifth highest mountain of the world, independently.

“And what you are saying is that I should not have that same right in the city that I pay the same amount of rates as you do.”

When asked where Colleen sourced her information about people with disabilities, Colleen said we believes able-bodies people have just as many rights as the disabiled.

“And Tony, with respect, if you can climb the highest mountain in the world you can go along Pilot Bay.”

Tony says he has taken these comments to the Disabilities Commissioner and is waiting for a response, expected to take about a week.

“The tough thing for me I certainly believe that what has been said and put in print is certainly offensive, but the issue for me is how far should it go in relation to this whole boardwalk issue.

“What’s going to happen if it goes to where it could go, it will distort the whole situation. I have to be responsible as a councillor.

“I think everybody should be offended at the attitudes of people to a very simple thing. We all have the same rights and to be called a minority is offensive in itself.”

On the Facebook page ‘Say no Pilot Bay boardwalk’ Colleen also made the following comments.

“Sometimes people with disabilities (being the minority) demand the rights over able bodied people to be catered for….In this instance, people have had the gumption to stand up and say NO….We as able bodied people are claiming the right for Pilot Bay to be retained as a natural “Little piece of Paradise.”

Tony’s reply included mention of Colleen’s statement that children might get run over by wheelchairs, and implied that she knew what it is like to push on the grass because her husband pushed her on grass without a problem.

“Why should you expect to be in front of council and not be challenged on such ridiculous statements. I do however applaud you for making your presentation to us, but note there were not many of your 800 supporters there,” says Tony’s email.

Colleen says her online petition has 160 signatures, with a further 50 on signed paper. She says most of the support against the boardwalk is on Facebook with two pages opposing the boardwalk having 373 and 466 likes respectively.




51 Comments

Further down the Board walk

Posted on 26-04-2013 10:37 | By Colleen Spiro

Isn’t it interesting how things turn out......I have received no letters YET, AND the boardwalk IS going ahead, in and around the trees (where applicable) as per Tony’s amendment....and EVERYONE WINS.It is taking as little green space as possible, which is what we wanted, and will accessible to all..Tony and I were probably were always closer to being on the same page that he ever bothered to find out..... NOW THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL A COMPROMISE

I voted for Tony!!!!

Posted on 17-04-2013 17:47 | By waiknot

and what a disappointment he is. I have emailed him with a genuine issue, no reply. (maybe you were on a private enterprise speaking tour?) Never mind councilor Moultre resolved the issue for me. He has been until election year silent. Come on Tony make Councillor Tony the man you present yourself as.

Close to trees

Posted on 16-04-2013 08:16 | By YOGI

So if not enough room and to wide then as the trees continue to grow the boardwalk will become like a roller-coaster anyway, saves paying to go to the theme park.

Alternate proposal suspect too

Posted on 14-04-2013 21:13 | By POCO O POCO

Looks like a crock of old cobblers to me and I bet TCC staff come back and say cannot get that close to the trees so all bets off.Now back to square one hey ?

Rampage on wheels

Posted on 10-04-2013 17:33 | By PLONKER

Tantrums and all what a waste of space and time this all is!

Childish

Posted on 09-04-2013 13:18 | By YOGI

Like "I want to play with your toys ..." and next thing you know there is a spat, this kind of thing is what happens at pre-school, good luck to try and spot the difference?

Blown out of proportion and some?

Posted on 07-04-2013 13:54 | By PLONKER

Looks to me that the simple task of a TCC failing to do a little public consultation has resulted in a Human Rights drama ...? not sure about why that is but really this is not about those in wheel chairs being disadvantaged or something, it is about the majority beign able to enjoy and use an area without wheelchairs, skate boarders and other whiz bang artists having yet another place to wander along at pace and at the expense of the general masses of ratepayers. Why should all pay the costs for the pleasure of a few?

Napoleon

Posted on 06-04-2013 13:26 | By YOGI

Well he could also stand up in the strips also to as to gain a little head type elevation.

Napoleon

Posted on 05-04-2013 08:53 | By YOGI

That is a bit harsh, even though Napoleon had legs he still needed a pony (a white one) to sit on to be able to look ya in the eye. The comparison is not really fair. As far as I know Tony does not have a white pony?

Arrogance and I wand Napoleon syndrome

Posted on 04-04-2013 19:33 | By KAMIKAZE

This little chappie has put him self in the public eye with his continual carping/whinging and he deserves all the criticism he is getting. Just print what is being said some may find it very enlightening.Come October don’t vote for this nonsense.

Waste of time and space

Posted on 04-04-2013 02:09 | By TERMITE

Is this all that this lot can talk about, moan about. Surely there are way more important things than a little tantrum about something even less important in fact not important at all. That means both of them, the Boardwalk and the whole damn thing.

What next Get real

Posted on 03-04-2013 16:52 | By Fonzie

Off to the human rights commission! People how much of Urban Tauranga foreshore have we left? What hasnt been wharved carparked railway lined expresswayed is precious little There is a boardwalk right around Waikareau estuary Pilot bay is a very small precious natural piece left of what once ran all the way to the bridge This council is donkey deep in debt Havent they got better things to spend their/our money on? Methinks the councillor protesteth too much

geez pleez

Posted on 03-04-2013 13:41 | By traceybjammet

I think Kiwis used to be a bunch of tuff, can-do-anything breed of people that worked together like grown-ups. I fear we have encouraged whining in society rather than positive thinking and positive actions and whether I have disabilities or not is not the issue its the best solution to a problem that can be easily fixed

General lesson, don't vote for celebrities

Posted on 03-04-2013 10:12 | By Phailed

I just want to moan about how people get elected to council and even to government kind of on a celebrity ticket. After all, it’s a great earner alongside your paid speaking engagements or whatever other income you might have.

@ Penguin

Posted on 02-04-2013 19:46 | By Colleen Spiro

You are damned straight we live in a freedom of speech Country....Just extremely concerned that I and thousands of other pay rates, to the Council for them to do EXACTLY what they please....not much consultation, now what would you call those type of actions in politics?

@shells277

Posted on 02-04-2013 19:41 | By Colleen Spiro

he is not, but this is a link to James Fullers questions asked of me which was published. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151420284278720&set=a.79489683719.77232.573963719&type=1

Democracy at work

Posted on 02-04-2013 11:17 | By penguin

In case some of the commentators have not noticed, we live in a democracy. Part of such allows for freedom of speech AND avenues by which to air grievances. Tony chose to send his to the Human Rights Commission which he is fully entitled to do. The Commission will be the arbiter of whether or not he has a valid case. I would be interested to see how some people would react if they were on the other side of the "ability/disability" fence. The bottom line is that a boardwalk is a means by which to improve access for ALL to an amenity, precisely what the Pilot Bay one is going to do. If some of you don’t like the idea of the boardwalk, stay home and don’t bother using it. That will make it less crowded.

WTF

Posted on 01-04-2013 19:02 | By Can do it

Is this news? A man (read baby) grizzling to the HRC because he is ’offended’ Geez boy lucky you didn’t get to grow up in a different era where your pretty wee feelings would be the last thing to worry about. Grow some mana and get your act together and earn your pay!

when are you interviewing Colleen?????

Posted on 01-04-2013 08:46 | By shells277

This WAS my preferred news site but sadly the biased reporting shown in the above article disgusts me. I have seen numerous articles on here where both parties have been interviewed. Why is this article different? Does Andrew have a connection to Tony??? If the reporter bothered to do their homework they would have heard in the readily available audio that Tony was an embarressment to himself + every resident in Tauranga. He also has shown himself to be a hypocrite. He is a motivational speaker who verbally attacked a resident with a different view to his own and then being unable to handle healthy debate went running to the HRC!!!!! The photo opp + publicity in election year is all he was after

Susan will fix it ..

Posted on 31-03-2013 10:51 | By Rusty Kane

There needs to be a good strong intermediary to get Tony and Coleen together and sort this out before it get’s out of hand .. no better person than the newly elected Human Rights Commissioner Susan Devoy no doubt Susan being Susan a no nonsense Kiwi .. will bang their heads together .. and make them see common sense ..

Double trouble

Posted on 31-03-2013 02:08 | By Crash test dummies

False and over dramatised racial stuff and a boardwalks that 80% of people don’t want. So the TCC communications dept swings into action to make everything sounds wonderful .... but as we know truth and publicity are two very different things.

@Kiaora2u

Posted on 30-03-2013 14:08 | By morepork

No problem, and thanks for clarifying. My problem here is not with the Boardwalk; I have no opinion about that as I seldom use Pilot Bay, preferring the surf. I am not "anti-disabled" (is anybody?) and I am not "anti-environment". I AM "anti-politicians-bleating-to-a-higher-power", because of what someone SAID rather than DID. Nothing that has been done here (as far as I can see) has infringed ANYBODY’s Human Rights. If somebody offends you with words, we have slander and libel laws and a civic mechanism for reparation. (Although, for myself, I would always try to resolve an issue by dialogue with the person who offended me.) What concerns me here is that a person might USE their disabled status to gain a favourable ruling from an august body like the Human Rights Commission. If you have ever been in places where Human Rights ARE being violated (and I have) you would better understand why this concerns me.

@ Morepork

Posted on 30-03-2013 09:06 | By Colleen Spiro

I humbly apologise....my comment was meant for Penguin.

1/5th of Tauranga-eye-inns?

Posted on 29-03-2013 12:22 | By TERMITE

Dont get that, means Tony thinks that Tauranga is a haven for disabled people going on that number or that many a resident has some unseen defect that matters to Tony. I guess that some disabilities are unable to be simply seen so must reside within "sight unseen". Perhaps Tony has more than one disability that is likely a common thing with Council Chambers and likely most inhabitants within TCC also, this afliction is unable to be seen from witin but can seen by the observant ones outside. This is evident from the observed behaviour patterns, squirming and fidigiting in a ferrit like manner 24/7.

I'm confused!

Posted on 29-03-2013 10:22 | By KiwiSteve

Just seen this on Tony Christiansen’s website. "Before the accident, I could have done 10,000 things - been an All Black, a world-class cyclist or a downhill skier - but after, I could only do 8,000 of those things. I can mull on the 2,000 things that I could never do but I choose to focus on the 8,000 that I can." - Tony Christiansen Motivational speaker and professional athlete So he does accept that he can’t do some things! Why then, do we need a boardwalk? As I have said before, I have NEVER seen a person in a wheelchair using the boardwalk on the Main beach side. I have however, seen people in wheelchairs using Pilot Bay, IN ITS CURRENT NATURAL GREEN STATE!

Posturing

Posted on 29-03-2013 09:15 | By tabatha

This whole thing over the boardwalk started because of lack of good communications about what the Council wanted to do to try and preserve Pilot Bay. We now have a situation where it has gone beyond preserving Pilot Bay to personalities. At this stage, do I say it, perhaps the only answer is too let all electors of Tauranga have a say via a referendum. To make it fair we would need more than 50% reply, that sometimes is better than a lot of elections. I am wondering if this happened would people accept the result! I am now at the stage where I did support, and still do really, no boardwalk but feel many of the arguments have become personal. My worry was not only ordinary wheelchairs but mobility chairs, bikes, scooters etc causing damage. Recently saw a person going full bore in a crowded area with an electric mobility scooter hit a young child, this is the concern for me. Not just electric but any form of mechanical device, disabled or able controlled hitting someone.

Easy Solution

Posted on 29-03-2013 08:31 | By Caped Crusader

Firstly, good on you Tony for making a stand. All of our lovely beaches should be made as accessible as possible for less addled people (blind, deaf, vision impaired, wheelchairs etc). Those people that are against this boardwalk should maybe put themselves in a wheelchair or put on a blindfold and see if they can navigate along the grassed area. Please don’t say they should use the path (they are not pets), they should be able to enjoy similar experiences as the rest of us. The rate payer dollar will be well utilised on this project and be of benefit for everyone imho

Minorities?

Posted on 29-03-2013 08:22 | By PLONKER

The majority of the grass will be wiped out but it is said that it will be "protected". When you dig it up and replace the turf with concrete of a wodden boardwalk then the grass dies. We are not in New York, you want a board walk go there.

ARE YOU SURE HE MADE THAT CLAIM

Posted on 29-03-2013 08:15 | By KAMIKAZE

@ KiwiSteve are you sure Councillor Christiansen made the claim that he represents 1/5 of Tauranga people with disabilities.If so where on earth does he get that notion from because clearly he has no such mandate.I fully endorse what Steve Morris has said about the Pilot Bay boardwalk furore -so man up Cr. Christiansen get on with your important Council business and stop bleating.Seeking special privileges reeks of another sector of our society - guess who !!

Just a couple of things

Posted on 28-03-2013 22:58 | By Colleen Spiro

To anyone really wanting to know what I ACTUALLY said in the meeting, the audio is on the Council website and I NEVER said anything about SPEEDING wheelchairs...Tony’s words @ Morepork....I represented people in a chamber full of people, right out of my comfort zone, so I consider that to be positive and some of the Councillors agreed.....to emulate Tony Christiansen would be the last thing on earth that I would wish to do. I am Tauranga born and bred and a little older than Tony, and I am not going anywhere, because my passion for Tauranga/Mount is how this started. There is a lot more to it than stated in this article. You know there always is. @ Steve Morris - THANK YOU For everyone else, we will let the Human rights and the Disabilities Commissioner deal with the rest. Tony is neither a gentleman, a scholar or an effective politician.

I received an email

Posted on 28-03-2013 22:20 | By KiwiSteve

from Cr Christianson, stating he represented 1/5 of Tauranga people who had disabilities. Therefore 4/5 don’t have disabilities. Surely the 1/5 of people with disabilities(and that includes myself) are the minority!

Why don't...

Posted on 28-03-2013 22:12 | By KiwiSteve

we have a chairlift up Mt Maunganui to make it easier access for people in wheelchairs, and a picture of the view at the top in braille so blind people can enjoy the view as well? There are more disabilities than not being able to walk.

GO FOR IT SPIT THE DUMMY

Posted on 28-03-2013 21:01 | By EYESPY

Good show go and have a whinge to HRC and show the Tauranga public what this intrusion is all about.Why not make a request for a special ’gold plated’ boardwalk while you are at it.Currently the foreshore is usable by everyone including those with disabilities & no one is being treated differently at all. It is fine as it is just try it out properly sometime it may be a new experience- because what you are looking for is very special treatment for no good or legitimate reason.

Well

Posted on 28-03-2013 20:24 | By Capt_Kaveman

if all goes well this election Tony Chirstensen will be packing his bags like the rest of them,to give some light on this mall rd since the speed limit was reduced to 30kph which should have been 40kph cyclist pass me and no cop to see anywhere

More squabling over other peoples money and property

Posted on 28-03-2013 19:34 | By The Tomahawk Kid

I am extremely offended that some people think they have the right to TAKE the money that I earn (through my own time, sweat and toil) BY FORCE AND THREATS, and spend it on pet projects THEY think are for my own good. I would like to take these people to the human rights commission. FIRST: they would use FORCE on me to take my earnings (Force being the most uncivilised action one human being can make against another) SECOND: they would Deny me the RIGHT to spend my own money on things I value (because what they think is obviously more important) THIRD:they are immoral busyboddies who would FORCE their ideas and beliefs onto others, proving that they have no concern for the rights of a minority, and no concern for other peoples rights.Some of them would even go to the lengths of forcing others to pay for things they want because THEY have a disability. This is a tragedy of the commons caused by a lack of any defined property rights. Every ratepayer has the equal right to a say in how and what their money is spent on, and what is done with the land we all have shares in. If it belonged to somebody in particular this would not even be an issue, as it would be THEIR right to build anything on it they want (if there was such a thing as property rights any more)

Good on you Tony

Posted on 28-03-2013 19:14 | By AllisonA

I find the comments made by Colleen Spiro and Yogi in the last week disgusting. Have we slipped back in time or are these people that naive? Even thick carpet can be hard for some people in Wheelchairs let alone uneven grass. This board walk is for all to use and would clean up a beautiful part of our city. Instead of putting up road blocks why dont you Colleen and your "160" supports donate some time to this and save the council some money.

Backflip

Posted on 28-03-2013 18:49 | By marsie

Wasn’t it back in November Tony that you argued for a concrete walkway, saying a boardwalk was too hard for wheelchairs to utilise. Is there some reason why you find the boardwalk acceptable now. if so I for one would like to know what has changed your mind..

Dear Tony!!!

Posted on 28-03-2013 18:32 | By Sambo

the noise from your toy boats offend me, I hoped you were better than this, with what you have had to cope with through life, and I agree with Colleen, I want Pilot Bay left alone, not for you Tony to use your disability for election posturing and free press, your Council is going to build this anyway, so cut the bull, and just get on with it, we shall see what happens come election time.

protecting green space

Posted on 28-03-2013 18:18 | By Calm Gully

Won’t the board walk protect the green areas, the path as it is is worn, dry and dusty,or muddy when wet. A boardwalk will protect this from happening AND it makes it easier for everyone - able bodied, elderly, people with walking sticks and wheel chairs, especially if an able bodied person has to push the wheel chair. It is great to be able bodied but the day may come when you are not, but would still like to enjoy Pilot Bay and the Mount.

CLARIFICATION 2

Posted on 28-03-2013 17:34 | By tonychristiansen

As a person with disability, I am an exception rather than the rule. Before I was cut off by Chairman David Stewart, I meant to say that I climbed Kilimanjaro and still find Pilot Bay difficult to access without climbing out of my wheelchair. To correct your comment Colleen, no particular group have or started off having more rights than others and EVERYBODY were accorded the same opportunity from the outset since 2011 when this project was announced.

CLARIFICATION 2

Posted on 28-03-2013 17:22 | By tonychristiansen

As a person with disability, I am an exception rather than the rule. Before I was cut off by Chairman David Stewart, I meant to say that I climbed Kilimanjaro and still find Pilot Bay difficult to access without climbing out of my wheelchair. To correct your comment Colleen, no particular group have or started off having more rights than others and EVERYBODY were accorded the same opportunity from the outset since 2011 when this project was announced.

Must Be election Year eh

Posted on 28-03-2013 17:18 | By Tony

Nuf Said

It's now more than just a boardwalk ..

Posted on 28-03-2013 17:17 | By Rusty Kane

It’s now more than just a boardwalk .. it’s now disabled verse able .. personalities and local politics .. in an election year .. the issue itself is now lost .. sadly ..

OMG Its the Human rights now

Posted on 28-03-2013 17:14 | By Fonzie

Do we want a little bit of natural harbour edge beach or or not? We have boardwalks everywhere there used to be a perfect sand beach all the way from the mountain to Aerodrome Bay in my living memory this is the last little bit

Oh Colleen...

Posted on 28-03-2013 16:04 | By penguin

Since you see so many dangers in the boardwalk, I suggest you move out of Tauranga and live somewhere else. I have never heard such offensive comments from anyone about people with disabilities. Using your logic about children and the boardwalk, perhaps we should ban all roads, home driveways, playgrounds, walking tracks etc to ensure that no-one gets hurt. From my experiences of the main beach boardwalk, I have more issues with kids/teenagers and some young adults on scooters, skateboards and bikes than people in wheelchairs. And in case you have not noticed, children run across the boardwalk on the main beach from the grass to the sand! Your comments about Tony’s mountaineering feat are offensive in the extreme. Why don’t you do something really positive and emulate him? By the way, I am able bodied in case you think I am ‘bleating!’

Human Rights?

Posted on 28-03-2013 15:36 | By morepork

This just demeans and trivializes the real purpose of the Human Rights Commission. While we naturally sympathize with anyone who has a disability, what someone SAYS does NOT infringe your rights as a Human Being. We should all be thankful (able and disabled) that we live in a society that guarantees us the right to have an opinion and voice it. Colleen should not have to walk on eggshells if she has an opinion and Tony should be able to pull her up if she is out of line and he is offended by her. You don’t take this to a Commission that has much more important matters to look at. Sit down over a beer and decide if any malice was intended; work it out like adults. Don’t go bleating to a third party because you can’t resolve a difference, or take offence where none was intended. And why not channel all this energy into debating the real issue at odds here?

Open letter to Cr Tony Christiansen

Posted on 28-03-2013 12:31 | By Steve Morris

Dear Tony, I have followed your accomplishments since I was a kid and it was because of the character required to achieve feats such as ‘climbing the world’s 5th highest mountain independently’ that I voted for you last election. I hoped that such character would be an asset to council and standing up for our community. However, your attack on Colleen Spiro gives me pause. I was at the meeting when Colleen presented her group’s opinions and she was clearly intimidated by the chamber and the process. Despite her clear discomfort I then witnessed what I could only describe as a bullying attack on her by you. The intimidating tone and manner in which you addressed her were beneath you and your position as Tauranga City Councillor. Whether one agrees with Colleen or not she is a Tauranga citizen and ratepayer and she MUST be afforded the respect that every ratepayer and citizen DESERVES. This is not the first time you have expressed a disrespectful tone to a community member from your position as a councilor in the chamber. To then take a community member to the disability commissioner for expressing an opinion is a disgrace. Is anyone who passionately opposes your opinion to suffer from such intimidation in the future? I understand your passion regarding boardwalks and comments trolls may have made on Colleen Facebook page and you made your attack in front of a full public gallery with both media organisations present. However, as someone who might consider voting for you again should you live up to the man I admired as a kid I have these objections: 1) Once the media and majority of the public had left you were absolutely silent when council voted not to extend the Marine Parade boardwalk down to Oceanbeach Road. I would suggest that if you are going to stand for something, argue for it when the media are not present as passionately as you do when they are there. 2) I hope that you will draw on the character you posses to apologise to Colleen and be the councilor that those who voted for you hoped you would be. Sincerely Steve Morris P.S. If you find any of my comments offensive I invite you to take them to the said commissioner as well.

I support boardwalk but not the complaint

Posted on 28-03-2013 11:54 | By Phailed

Going to the Human Rights Commission is an over the top response in my opinion. But good the see Tony Christiansen was actually at the council meeting. There was publicity about his absences recently. But I agree with him that there should be a boardwalk which if anything will protect the environment. I think there are too many selfish people who don’t want others to enjoy amenities here. As for the moaners who say they want to retain Pilot Bay as natural, well you’d need to get rid of the tarseal road, dinghies, waka ama, and horrible houses for a start. Not likely to happen, so lets build a boardwalk that will give easier access to the less abled.

CLARIFICATION

Posted on 28-03-2013 11:35 | By Colleen Spiro

Need to clarify that only after an email I send Tony containing these words, did he say he had forwarded my response to the Disabilities Commissioner and Human Rights. “Sometimes people with disabilities (being the minority) demand the rights over able bodied people to be catered for….In this instance, people have had the gumption to stand up and say NO….We as able bodied people are claiming the right for Pilot Bay to be retained as a natural “Little piece of Paradise.” I do not dispute I made these comments in an email to him I also need to add here, that people with disabilities started off having rights regarding the board walk....able bodied people who wish to retain the green space, were NOT afforded the same courtesy from the outset.... We have had to fight for our rights, and sadly I do not think the Council will take into consideration a plan that was presented to them, which would have been a huge compromise, giving everyone rights.

Go away Colleen

Posted on 28-03-2013 11:27 | By penguin

Since you see so many dangers in the boardwalk, I suggest you move out of Tauranga and live somewhere else. I have never heard such offensive comments from anyone about people with disabilities. Using your logic about children and the boardwalk, perhaps we should ban all roads, home driveways, playgrounds, walking tracks etc to ensure that no-one gets hurt. From my experiences of the main beach boardwalk, I have more issues with kids/teenagers and some young adults on scooters, skateboards and bikes than people in wheelchairs. And in case you have not noticed, children run across the boardwalk on the main beach from the grass to the sand! Your comments about Tony’s mountaineering feat are offensive in the extreme. Why don’t you do something really positive and emulate him? By the way, I am able bodied in case you think I am ‘bleating!’

Worse than children

Posted on 28-03-2013 10:55 | By YOGI

So lets all have a wee spat about something meaningless and totally unrelated to the real issues with the Board walk, that fact that it is completely pointless waste of time, space and money. Pilot Bay is just fine as it is as long as the beach itself is restored because of the erosion that is currently occurring

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