Three waters: entrenchment provision debated

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Cabinet will today discuss an entrenchment provision in the three waters legislation after lawyers and opposition parties criticised the move as unconstitutional, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says.

The Water Services Entities Bill passed through the committee stage under urgency last week and is set for its third and final reading in Parliament next month.

It is the one of several bills relating to the government's three waters project, which will shift responsibility for water management from councils to four purpose-built water service organisations.

The outcry, however, surrounds a supplementary order paper - an addition to the bill suggested by the Green Party and voted in with Labour's backing - which will make it harder for future governments to overturn anti-privatisation provisions in the proposed law.

The protections include:

  • If the water service entity wants to sell some of all of its assets, it needs sign-off from at least three quarters of its regional representative group - a strategic oversight body made up of council members and mana whenua
  • It also needs to hold a referendum on the sale which all electors in its local government areas can vote on, and win 75 percent of the vote

Opposition parties including National have criticised the legislation before it was even brought to Parliament, warning - among other things - that the assets risked being privatised anyway, because any future government could simply rewrite the law to bypass those provisions.

The government brought together a working group of mayors and iwi representatives to suggest improvements that could be made before the bill was taken to Parliament.

They suggested the privatisation protections be covered by a further "entrenchment" which would require the support of three quarters - 75 per cent - of MPs in Parliament for those aspects to be changed.

National has repeatedly ruled out privatisation of water assets, but explicitly refuses to back even that aspect of the reform programme, which - because of the high bar it would set for repeal - would have required their support.

The ACT Party also refuses to back it, saying it's a smokescreen and a distraction because no one is proposing privatisation.

"Smokescreen" is the same language Infrastructure Minister Grant Robertson has used to describe ACT's policy, which is to use public-private partnerships to increase investment in water services.

The rest of the bill only requires a simple majority of more than 50 per cent - or 61 MPs - to pass, which Labour can and is expected to comfortably do on its own.

What the Greens' SOP does is suggests a watered-down version of that entrenchment clause: requiring 60 per cent support to overturn the privatisation provisions.

Constitutional lawyers like Dean Knight have warned, however, this would set a dangerous precedent in law-making, enabling any government of the day to use whatever majority it can muster to ensure it cannot be overturned, without a future government achieving the same level of support.

They argue entrenchment provisions are - by convention - applied only to matters of electoral law.

As Otago University law professor Andrew Geddis told Morning Report, this is to ensure the system remains fair and is not subject to things like gerrymandering.

"The basic idea is majorities rule - so Parliament can pass any law it wants on anything, we give it all that power to make law, contingent on if a new majority comes along in future they can change it back," he says.

Photo: RNZ / Cole Eastham-Farrelly.

"We only protect a very few bits of law from that process - so there's some bits of our electoral act, the length of term of Parliament, the voting age, the method in which we vote, how electorates get drawn up - those things require a supermajority of 75 per cent to change, that's because we don't really trust current majorities to make rules on those things because they could make rules that benefit them - the current government could [for example] extend the current term to five years, give themselves more time in office.

"The trick is to think of something you disagree with - a policy you really don't like - say, maybe three strikes sentencing, because that's something I'm pretty opposed to, why shouldn't your political opponents who really like that policy take the same position as you are and say 'this is so important we're going to put it into law and we're going to say it can only be taken out if 60 percent of MPs agree in the future'."

Cabinet to discuss entrenchment principles - Ardern

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern told Morning Report that Cabinet will discuss the matter today during its weekly meeting.

"The subject matter was on an issue that actually a majority of parties in Parliament agree with - which is not privatising water assets - so we'll just put the subject matter aside and come to the principle of entrenchment.

"The norm generally tends to be a supermajority, so there's a few things about the situation that were a bit quirky, so that's why we'll be having a conversation around that today.

"I don't want to get ahead of the conversation because there are a range of options to deal with just generally how do you protect the entrenchment provisions to ensure they're not widely used, but again I'll just keep my powder dry there."

'Desperate attempt' to manufacture debate about privatisation - Goldsmith

National's Justice Spokesperson Paul Goldsmith says law-making is simply not done that way in New Zealand, and it is a new and dangerous precedent that would "handcuff a future government".

Paul Goldsmith Photo: RNZ / Dom Thomas.

He says privatisation is not in the same ballpark as electoral matters.

"Look, that would be a desperate attempt to try to manufacture a debate about privatisation which there isn't - nobody's proposing privatising water, it's not an issue," he says.

"It could be about privatisation of water, it could be about three strikes legislation, it could be about a tax rate, it could be about anything - the point we're making is in the New Zealand political context we don't require these supermajorities.

"We certainly wouldn't go about it in a sneaky underhand way which is what they did during a rolling debate in the House without any debate, without any public consultation, without any kind of constitutional norms."

He says the government could send the bill back to the select committee for the matter to be corrected.

He suggests National could privatise the assets in a future government and is a "student politics approach to what is a very important issue".

'Have to question what National's plans are' - Sage

Green Party Three Waters Spokesperson Eugenie Sage argues the matter is important enough to be requiring a higher level of support to overturn.

She notes only the privatisation provisions are being entrenched.

"There was 80,000 submissions and a lot of concern in those submissions that our three waters - drinking water, wastewater and stormwater - stay in public ownership. So this is entrenching one clause of the bill," she says.

"National has said that it's got no intention of selling, why wouldn't it support entrenchment then? You really have to question what National's plans are. They also opposed a reduction in the term of the contracts from 35 years to 15 years so that the entities can't contract out for more than 15 years."

Sage says water services are "essential to life", and keeping them in public ownership was highlighted by public submissions during the select committee process as important enough to require strong legal protections.

"People make submissions to Parliament in the expectation that MPs will listen, will consider and amend the law to improve it. That's what was flagged at the start of this whole process when the government talked about entrenchment.

"National wouldn't support it - that's why the provision doesn't have a 75 per cent majority. The Greens, legitimately using the parliamentary process, put up that supplementary order paper and it was passed."

-Russell Palmer/RNZ.

7 comments

The latest is to use Te Reo as a smokscreen.

Posted on 28-11-2022 14:11 | By morepork

An example: "te Oranga o te Taiao" occurs numerous times in the document, along with many other Te Reo words which most people will be unfamiliar with. It translates simply as: "environmental health". But now, the government can argue that there is a different shade of meaning in the Maori culture and so there can be interminable arguments over what previously unused terms, now mean in Law. This is all part of the government's quest to replace Democracy (The People Rule) with Tikanga (The Boss rules...) and co-governance. It is shameful and disgusting and I hope the electorate will show how they feel about it at the next chance they get.


Outrageous

Posted on 28-11-2022 15:19 | By Kancho

They are determined to undermine democratic process. This is setting a worrying president that any government can pass legislation without electors and make it difficult or impossible to repeal if unsuitable or unworkable. They really need to be brought to heel and gone in the next elections. They have mismanaged long enough and show there incompetence in every area


Not one country anymore

Posted on 28-11-2022 16:44 | By an_alias

What an absolute shocker of a bill and amendment. Absolute asset grab and agenda to divide the country


Transparency?

Posted on 28-11-2022 17:20 | By waiknot

An example of this so called most transparent government in action. Absolute Arrogance attempting to restrict your democratic right to vote for change


Hmmm

Posted on 28-11-2022 19:05 | By Let's get real

Who is actually leading the Labour government...? More and more often inexperienced and inept ministers are being left to tell the country that they know best. I can see the infantile headline attacks in the future as the next government tries to unravel the mess that they will be left with before they can start doing some actual work.


@ an_alias

Posted on 28-11-2022 21:35 | By Yadick

Well said. It's theft and corruption and total twisting and distortion of the Treaty which was never one-sided as it is today. Radicals being allowed to divide the country. Labor has no place in (supposedly) leading our country now.


It's really difficult.......

Posted on 28-11-2022 21:57 | By groutby

..........to believe in any way the current government is working in a 'democratic' way for the majority of the population as I thought it should be. ...everything that they come up with seems to be a challenge to 'normal' thinking and procedure, and so much effort tirelessly opposing irresponsible and poorly thought out policy is in itself applying a handbrake to our economy not to mention our lives....the damage is and will remain long lasting long after they are removed from office....


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