Many cities have one. Many people visit one. And many people think they are a great thing. But for some reason, it is a source of many a debate in Tauranga.
Should Tauranga have a museum or not?
The much-talked about topic is back in the public eye, with plans for one in the recently announced Civic Precinct Masterplan refresh – named Te Manawataki o Te Papa - announced by council includes a 2,400m2 museum on the corner of Willow Street and Hamilton Street.
The facility would display the city's taonga and heritage collection which, to Tauranga City COuncil commissioner Stephen Selwood's astonishment, has been stored in a warehouse since 1998.
'It should be on display so we understand our history and where we came from,” he says.
'This is a fantastic opportunity and we should grasp it with every hand that we have.”
Grasp it he must, as museum plans in Tauranga have a tendency to slip away.
When the current heritage collection went into storage it did so in anticipation of a new museum being in place by 2002. It never happened.
In 2007, a waterfront museum plan was scrapped amid political wrangling and rising costs.
In May 2018, voters rejected the idea of a museum in a referendum held in conjunction with a concurrent by-election, with 59.4 per cent of voters against the idea.
At the time, Tauranga MP Simon Bridges admitted to being disappointed. Three years on, he remains '100 per cent” in support of a museum build, particularly in the heart of the city.
'I have backed a museum in our CBD for many years now and I still do,” he says.
'The reason for this is that I have been to see the collection of historical artifacts and treasures in storage, and they need a place for young and old to see them and understand our city's story and have pride in it.”
Simon says he is sad to see museums in smaller cities such as Napier, Nelson and New Plymouth, but no such facility in Tauranga.
'A city of our size needs a heart, and that requires significant cultural amenities like a museum to draw people in.”
From his own experience of speaking to locals, Simon believes a majority want a museum but acknowledges pushback is possible.
So why has a museum been such a contentious idea? Simon has a simple explanation.
'One word,” he says. 'Cost.”
He believes the burden on the ratepayer can be softened, suggesting money from central government, Bay of Plenty Regional Council and the local business community can ease the load.
'It's actually a bit of a misunderstanding in my view,” he explains.
'We don't need a platinum-plated job, and this is where the council has gone wrong in the past.
'I also know that many hands make light work, and it shouldn't be left up to just Tauranga City Council to foot the bill.”
Whilst the museum plans, and the overall Civic Precinct refresh, are being widely praised by the likes of Simon and those in the Tauranga business community, opposition is beginning to bubble.
'We just are not sure a museum is currently the highest priority,” says Tauranga Ratepayers' Alliance spokesperson Ross Crowley.
'It is a very ambitious project, but there are other things in Tauranga with more importance, such as sorting out the roads and transport issues.”
Ross says the TRA is unsure a plan of this significance should be made under the current governance system – with the commission currently sitting in place of elected councillors.
'Our position is that this group of nominated leaders, not contested and aligned to central government, should not be pushing through something like this.
'They need to take into account what people want, not what they think the people of Tauranga should want. That means they have to listen to the people, not just a small collection of those for whom this suits their agenda.”
Tauranga City Council commissioner Shadrach Rolleston believes the importance of a museum cannot be understated.
'A museum is a repository where taonga from our past can be safely held for future generations to enjoy,” says Shadrach. 'But more importantly, it's also a place where we can see and learn about where we've come from and gain important lessons to guide our future.
'Looking around Aotearoa, you would be hard-pressed to find any significant town or city that does not have a museum, so it is a marker of maturity, but also of respect for our past and for the culture of our area.”
He says the commission received calls for a museum throughout the Long Term Plan process this year, and he has seen widespread support of the idea so far.
He does, however, anticipate there will be parts of the community who are opposed, as they have been in the past, with concerns over cost and location expected.
'There is interest from others to partner with the council in the delivery of the civic masterplan, however, that needs to translate into funding.
'The commission has directed staff to investigate all funding and financing avenues to deliver the project as a single-stage phased development, including Crown, community and private investment.”
Ngāi Tamarāwaho hold the mana whenua for the site, and hapu representative Buddy Mikaere says the idea of a museum has been around for many years. Unfortunately, in his eyes, it has often been used as a political pawn.
'Efforts to establish a museum have been largely led by community members,” says Buddy.
'Unfortunately, in more recent times, some local politicians have seen it as a handy whipping boy for their own purposes, deliberately misrepresenting the costs to the ratepayers and using that as an election platform.
'We can see that with the politicians currently absent from the decision making seats, great community ideas like having a museum have been able to progress.
'I applaud that very much.”
The epic tale of Tauranga's difficult relationship with the concept of a museum appears to be entering its next, and possibly final, chapter. Buddy is hopeful the conclusion of that story sparks the beginning of sharing Tauranga's.
'We have a great historical record here in Tauranga,” he says. 'Through the proposed new museum, let's tell it.”



22 comments
Again
Posted on 01-01-2022 12:14 | By Kancho
It says many cities have one , many people visit one and many people want one. Many people in this instance being a minority as the last referendum on this issue said . Why because museums aren't well patronised nor art galleries even by boosting numbers by herding captive children through the doors. Why this is again because people realise squeaky wheels get the oil. Why because many ratepayers struggle to pay the rates yet more council important activities need funding and the recent waste of money is to the front of line. Since the last defeat of the museum faction/ agenda the city has got worse not better so why do people think this will fly in public opinion. So much is wrong at council and government level this is just a distraction
Why Museum Opposition - DISHONESTY, CORRUPT PROCESSES
Posted on 01-01-2022 13:07 | By Murray.Guy
The Commissioners, TCC senior staff, museum sycophants repeatedly mislead the community (as in most things Council) which further distances those in opposition. Yes, there is strong opposition to the cost, but a few cents from an ego driven alleged benefactor does not include any support for the ever-increasing annual impact on the ratepayer. New Museum advocates choose to forget the undermining of our former 'much loved museum', the 17th Avenue Historic Village Museum by the City Council and 'new' museum advocates, their refusal to adequately manage and fund, their deliberate and repeat abuse of volunteers, TCC refusal to address stormwater issues they created. Over the past 20 years NO community consultation has taken place from a 'blank sheet', ALL being with a predetermined CBD mindset, with accompanying bias propaganda. Even this article typically somewhat selective, misleading and dishonest in it's representations. Little wonder folk reject.
debate
Posted on 01-01-2022 13:20 | By dumbkof2
there is no debate about it. the people have spoken. we don't need it and we don't want it also we cant afford'it. end of story. why can't those people for it get it through their thick heads
just a thought
Posted on 01-01-2022 13:29 | By rotovend
A Museum would be better than just storing stuff althought it should have been where the TECt building is at the historic village or the old PO but now might as well but when they build the new council buildings they need to build a proper safe bus transfer station on the bottom floor
Cost and trust
Posted on 01-01-2022 13:32 | By waiknot
Simon is correct in stating some platinum plated proposals have been proposed. We still have a high proportion of retired folk on fixed incomes who justifiably are concerned with an extra rates burden. Remember the art gallery has always remained a cost to ratepayers. Also there has been a lack of trust especially regards what the true cost actually is, previously council have used a lot of smoke and mirrors sadly.
Unwanted
Posted on 01-01-2022 14:42 | By Let's get real
Why not respect the wishes of the ratepayers for a change and adhere to the results of the last referendum...? Return the items in storage to their owners or descendants and if that isn't possible, donate to the national museum and let them finance the upkeep of a few bits of stone, metal and cloth. Nearly 60% of the population didn't, and probably don't, want an edifice to be established for the glorification and financial benefit of a handful of politicians and curators. The imposition of yet another financial black hole by unelected seat warmers is a disgraceful indictment on the democratic wishes of our community.
Golly Gosh
Posted on 01-01-2022 14:42 | By old trucker
Have we not all been through this debarcle ,everyone says NO NO GOSH WE NEED WATER FIRST than this bloody musuem for crying out loud,for last 30 years still same SAVE WATER, we did not want water meters but they put them in and now tell us to save,we PAY for what we use do we not,all these big swimming pools in ground from the air flying in is crazy, worrying about above and spending 400 million on a stable to house all the boot lickers and bosses boys so they have something nice to work in is crazy gosh they already have a nice place in Cameron rd and now fitting out BUILDING in TOWN AT GREAT COST in these troubled times SAVING should be top PRIORITY, is TCC GOING TO mandate ITS STAFF, it should do, my thoughts only,Sunlive No1 News Thankyou 10-4 out phew.
Museum
Posted on 01-01-2022 15:06 | By surfsup
How many people are surprised at a lack of Museum is not surprising. It's a shame some of those people can't be as supportive in getting Tauranga rubbish issues sorted. Having has the misfortune of using the Mount dump the other day, spending almost an hour getting in and out is farcical for a City the size of Tauranga. When these basic issues are sorted then a discussion about the Museum and other luxuries can take place
Trust more likely
Posted on 01-01-2022 15:57 | By usandthem
Cost may be one of the reasons,but i think the lack of trust of the council management to get it right is probably the main reason,considering all the stuff ups that they have made over the last few years,re Mount carpark,Cameron Rd at Greerton,Durham st upgrade etc.This council just can't get anything right so why should we trust them to build a museum?The government got rid of the councillors but the arrogant management remains.
I can't see how..........
Posted on 01-01-2022 16:19 | By groutby
...it is difficult to understand why it is not realised that many simply do not want a museum..at least right now. There are so many more important projects and city needs that should be addressed prior to a museum, these are a necessity, a museum is surely under the 'nice to have' (as finances allow) category?.. The call for a museum continues to be recalled to the table by a few ( I would suspect) and without due consideration to the actual 'needs' over the city rather than the 'wants'.... The 'Civic Precint refresh' in itself will go ahead like it or not...it is decided, many paying locals may well not resonate with the local community who largely who fund the entire thing...should it matter?...damn' right it should! If a museum is established then let it be at the total cost of those wishing to frequent it...
It's about priorities and cost.
Posted on 02-01-2022 13:58 | By morepork
Most of the Ratepayers are sick and tired of seeing our money being wasted, mismanaged, and spent on frivolous things that we have no say in. Nobody would reasonably object to a museum, per se; it is a "good thing" to have. But there is no confidence in the appointed Administrators that we currently have, and with a track record of failures, you can't blame people for being hesitant about another "non-essential" project. Especially when a recent poll (3 years ago) showed 59% opposed. That should have been good for five years before it was re-visited. But the current Admin are showing disrespect for the Community by unilaterally deciding that it is time NOW. It simply reinforces the perception that "The Boss" will get whatever she wants and there's nothing the rest of us can do about it. Democracy is anathema to these people and they need removal.
Nice
Posted on 02-01-2022 23:28 | By Yadick
But not a necessity. So other towns/cities have one, SO WHAT. Its not about keeping up with Jonesville. We're a city that if we were a credible business we would be declared bankrupt. Give us what we need to be viable and the niceties can come later. I am not in any way against a mueseum but I am without any doubt against spending on what we do not have. Who cares if the kardasianville has a museum and we don't. It's not going to draw the majority to the city and it's not in any way a priority. Spend wisely. At the end of the day the Commissioners will walk away and we are left with what we are left with. We cannot afford it - end of story.
All the usual contradictions
Posted on 05-01-2022 07:57 | By R. Bell
summed up by the spokesman for the Tauranga ratepayers alliance. Criticising the " group for who, this ( the museum) fits their agenda" whilst completely ignoring the fact that he represents an equally small group. The simple fact is that roading and transport will be an ongoing problem for a city built on a narrow peninsular. Does that mean that Tauranga city must forever remain a dull uninviting backwater? Surely not, we can do this with the support of all local funding sources. Just get on with it.
museum
Posted on 05-01-2022 10:15 | By dumbkof2
katikati has a perfectly good museum. anybody that wants to go to a museum can travel there
Referendum
Posted on 05-01-2022 13:43 | By Kancho
The results were previously quite clear. If so confident with the case for a museum ask the ratepayers again by referendum . Doubt they will as it still won't fly and the answer the same. The historic village can house exhibits, doesn't need to be all at once . Could be in different buildings and a theme etc. Much less spending required and exhibits just the same . Can't see any of the group's wanting the space providing any money, it's all about spending other people's money not their own
@R.Bell
Posted on 05-01-2022 15:16 | By Let's get real
Nearly 60% of RATEPAYERS have voted against establishing yet another empty warehouse. It's not wanted. Improving traffic flow might easily be resolved by a one way system... Into town via Cameron Rd and exit via Devonport Rd (equally Maunganui and Marine Parade or Totara. Ratepayers are being totally overlooked in favour of public opinion and Maori DEMANDS. We need to canvas only those with their names on rates notices and totally ignore the wishlists of those intent on spending the real stakeholders money without concern for increased rates, increased rents and ever increasing manufacturing costs. Potentially making small employer groups look for more affordable space elsewhere. Unaffordable civic construction has major downstream effects on the make-up of the community into the future. Can your Whanau afford to live and buy a property in $10 Tauranga currently...?
More snouts in the trough
Posted on 05-01-2022 18:52 | By Rockbit
The museum pushers minority don’t give up hé. The ratepayers have spoken at the referendum and the vast majority don’t want one, yet they keep on pushing and nagging in order to create another ratepayer funded kingdom. The least they could do is to combine it with that other ratepayer funded money loosing entirety being the Tauranga art gallery. Even, if the museum pushers get their way it will be totally influenced by the present trend of mãorification everything so you wonder if it will present a balanced view
Referendum results
Posted on 06-01-2022 08:16 | By R. Bell
are notoriously misleading. The last referendum on a museum was the result of a low turnout by -election. Even so it produced a significant minority vote for, 41%. Less than 10% above the median voted against 59%, all after a high profile campaign by the anti brigade. It begs the question, "why should only ratepayers get to vote? " A museum is for the benefit of ALL citizens and can be funded by and maintained by any number of funding sources including a small contribution from the city, who after all gain from increased patronage of the city centre, with a museum the centre of the attractions that will surely follow.
Debate please
Posted on 06-01-2022 09:39 | By an_alias
We have no debate, that was settled with the referendum. This is pure agenda and example of our current politics, pretend its a debate and do what they want. We can't afford essentials let alone this farce. Whats the cost Sunlive in rates increases ? How have they managed to get funds when the debt was at its limit already ?
Come on R Bell ?
Posted on 06-01-2022 09:40 | By an_alias
Can you use your brain. Why do rate payers get to vote, they are the ones paying for this dam thing and all the on going losses. You want to support it fine, why not give ALL your money to the council to spend.
Referendum are
Posted on 06-01-2022 13:14 | By Kancho
A good way to gauge support like it or not. As a vast number of the population never darken the door of a museum or art gallery they are busy living, working trying to get ahead bring up families etc. So rubbish to say ALL benefit. More are concerned with their future and disinterested in the past, like it or not. Ask how many of your friends and family say that they have been to a museum or art gallery once or twice or never. A small contribution from council? No talk of that or people saying they will give mega bucks either?
A last gasp effort to
Posted on 07-01-2022 11:29 | By R. Bell
counter the misinformation of an alias, and others. First and foremost ratepayers do not meet all costs of council. In actual indisputable fact they only contribute about 50% of council income. Tauranga city rates are significantly less than Western bay rates therefor the claim that we cannot afford to contribute more is incorrect. If the county can do it so can we. Significant minorities have to be considered, if not we are not the caring nation you all claim to be. Last for now. The value of museums and other cultural entities is proven to increase the welfare of both children and adults. Open your wallets and see the difference it brings to our currently 3rd world standard city centre and more importantly our childrens conduct in general.
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