Suspect rationale

In recent times the use of misinformation has become the norm rather than the exception.

In its current effort to deny Maori issues and opinions to be formally heard and considered around council debates, the organisation known as Hobsons Pledge and its local support group Concerned Citizens of Tauranga use misinformation and half-truths to influence the outcome of any proposed referendum on Maori ward establishment.

Sunlive recently featured two members of the latter group canvassing for signatures to force such a referendum.

However the rationale they use is suspect to say the least.

One of the two men featured is on record stating, there is no mention of partnership in the Treaty of Waitangi. The word partner is a noun used to describe an association of two or more entities, therefore a partnership exists, formalised by the articles of the treaty and determined by the agreed conditions.

The intent of the British was clear, reinforced later by the 1852 Constitution Act that provided for autonomous regions for Maori to govern themselves, but subject to British sovereignty. Context is important.

The other member of the featured partnership Ken Evans claims that a Maori ward cannot be representative because Maori are not a homogenous group.

It is nonsense - like that that influences opinion.

In that stated context there are no homogenous groups anywhere. Local Maori largely belong to Ngai Te Rangi iwi.

I know from long experience that these people are perfectly capable of sorting out who should or should not represent them.

Tom Fellingham goes on to state that Maori don't need to be involved in council matters – really? What about the need to partner with Maori on matters involving land development for the benefit of all local citizens. Matters involving river and catchment environment. I could go on.

Suffice to say the positives far outweigh any perceived negatives. Thanks.

R Bell, Omanawa

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10 comments

Why bother voting??

Posted on 21-11-2020 07:50 | By crazyhorse

Like thieves in the night elected councilors turn against their rate-payers and try to slip in unelected people to sit on council, it goes against everything democratic! if Maori wanted Maori on council they would vote for them, but, they don't! so are Maori too lazy to vote? or, do they want democracy like the rest of us?


Fox looking after Sheep

Posted on 22-11-2020 10:25 | By crazyhorse

I'm sure Nania Mahuta the new minister for local Gov't and Maori activist posing as a Labour minister will stop the majority having a say in these matters!


As I said,

Posted on 23-11-2020 09:41 | By R. Bell

misinformation. Two comments full of it. Any representative for Maori will be elected, by Maori for Maori, currently impossible because of a racist law enabling the majority to overrule elected councilors. A question crazyhorse. How do we determine whether or not those who vote against Maori wards, do so for legitimate political reasons, or out of blatant racism? Remember, insult is a weak mans idea of strength.


DEMOCRACY!

Posted on 23-11-2020 12:36 | By crazyhorse

The answer is simple, NZ is a democratic country, well, supposed to be, putting unelected people onto council or anything /anywhere else is simply undemocratic, fact! People have to work hard and campaign to get into local Gov't and others just get handed the seat.


Elephant in the room

Posted on 23-11-2020 12:39 | By crazyhorse

People forget or hide the fact that there is a large population of Maori in Tauranga, do you not wonder why they do not vote for Maori seats on council?


So you can't

Posted on 23-11-2020 15:50 | By R. Bell

answer the question crazyhorse. That's understandable. Here's another mind bender for you. Given your love for democracy, why do you support rural wards but not Maori wards, and why do you continue the falsehood that it is numerically possible for Maori to vote in a Maori candidate to represent Maori issues?


Democracy or separatism

Posted on 24-11-2020 09:12 | By crazyhorse

There are enough Maori in Tauranga to vote Maori councillors in, maybe look at the caliber of the candidates? Is Buddy the man for the job, obvious not as he got very few votes. The same suspects keep turning up and get turned away, Georgina Beyer a transexual Maori got into Carterton, she worked hard campaigned and won, I think your problem is around the work, campaign and responsibilitie ethic.


Last word from me,

Posted on 24-11-2020 13:00 | By R. Bell

clearly crazyhorse you are determined to obfuscate, so no debate possible. Your desire to remain on the wrong side of history is obvious. The use of false equivalence around democracy is common but wrong. Georgina Byers was elected in a general seat as was Peters, Bridges e.t.c non representing Maori issues. As stated its impossible due to inherent racism, and a complete lack of interest due to an outmoded belief that we don't need Maori input, as stated by Tom Fellingham.


Cuddling the truth

Posted on 24-11-2020 15:02 | By crazyhorse

What you are talking about Bell is racial preference, race based governance that brings in things like Marae maintenance and building paid for by the rate payers.


Last word from me

Posted on 24-11-2020 17:25 | By crazyhorse

You want a seat at the table given to you, based on race, look at it whatever way you want, and Ardearn and Nania Mahita will make sure you get that and much more!


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