Too soon for waka answers

Whether the Waka Maori pavilion will make Tauranga its next home is a question that cannot be answered yet, says project coordinator and Tuskany chief executive Sally Cooke.

In light of widespread feedback, much of it negative, on the proposal to put the 75 metre by 12 metre ‘Tupperwaka' on Tauranga's waterfront, Sally wishes to set the record straight.


The multi-million dollar waka.

Her proposal aims to bring the pavilion to Tauranga where it would be used as an events centre, promoting technological innovation and culture.

'We do not have at the moment a cultural, technological innovation, and showcase centre in the Bay,” says Sally.

'Imagine how good that could be as a business asset, a tourist attraction, a cultural asset, and a venue proposition in the bay, which is unique.”

'We are not about going up against the existing venues in the bay, we are about complementing them and this would provide a complement to the venue options but a very unique one.

'So when you go to the Waka Maori you are surrounded by the stories of the Bay, and showcasing our history.”

Sally says before she can answer questions about the pavilion's location, she first has to gather enough information to know if it would succeed as a business venture.

Tauranga City Council projects manager Tony Bodger says they are looking at locations and requirements for the pavilion, as well as services, resource consent, and building consent.

'So as part of feasibility for resource consent we are looking at location and consultation with people that will be affected: the businesses along The Strand.

'We are going to be starting to consult with them, and get some feedback from them.”

From a project point of view there are several locations the project team could end up looking at, they say.

The Tauranga waterfront is just the first location. They are starting with the northern reclamation area opposite the new rail crossing.

'We haven't got a lot of information, but we have to start somewhere,” says Tony.

A meeting with Tauranga City Councillors on Monday, described as confidential, was updating them on progress, says Tony.

He wouldn't call it a briefing because he sees briefing as presenting information upon which a decision is required, and they are not there yet.

Sally says the frustration from their perspective is that any concept or idea, across the world, needs to be looked at first.

'To jump to the dialogue that's happening at the moment; to say ‘It's a bad idea lets rule it out' when we haven't had due process, is really unfortunate when the potential benefits are quite high.

'We think there are enough people in this saying it's worthy of further investigation, so let's make an informed decision rather than an uniformed, off the cuff, shoot from the hip.”

Sally says instead of being part of a key event as it was in the 2011 Rugby World Cup, the Waka Maori for Tauranga would be a cultural and innovation showcase centre.

'You could have anything from conferences to meetings, to trade shows, corporate events, functions, and AGMs.”

The pavilion has room for 210 banquet seats and can fit up to 600 standing people. The intention is to make the Waka Maori a draw card that will bring people to it from across the central North Island, and drive foot traffic through the central city, says Sally.

'It's not about where it goes, it's about where the greatest need is. The greatest need is revitalising the central city, and the closer the waka is to the central city the easier it is.”

Bay Venues Ltd is helping examine the business case, says Tony.

'It's got to stack up; it's not something that's being taken lightly.

'It all forms part of the picture. We are trying to put the jigsaw together to see what bits fit where. It's a project where if everything stacks up it will be great. But everything does need to stack up.”

They expect to be able to tell Tauranga City councillors in November if the resource consent case stacks up.

The Waka Maori is currently in two containers in San Francisco.

When owners Ngati Whatua o Orakei bring it back to New Zealand it will enter via the Port of Tauranga's Sulphur Point container terminal.

23 comments

NO !!!

Posted on 20-09-2014 14:01 | By sambro

It's big and ugly.


Sink It!

Posted on 20-09-2014 14:25 | By cptn scully

Maybe with luck the container cranes will drop this monstrosity in the harbour where it will sink! For goodness sake Sally open your eyes to what has been written AGAINST this follish idea


I'm starting to get the impression

Posted on 20-09-2014 14:39 | By How about this view!

That some sort of back room deal has already been entered into. Why else would these people be trying so many different angles to sell this to the ratepayers. The choice of language used is pretty inspiring though, if you're a fan of SPIN - "In light of widespread feedback, much of it negative" surely the correct phraseology would be "MOST of it negative". I would also like to know the FULL cost of the investigation and negotiations being undertaken by ratepayer employees? What is the hourly rate for the Mayor, Councillors, projects managers, department managers, administration staff, et al. who would all have taken time away from managing the city to blow hot air on this nonsense?


Get The Message

Posted on 20-09-2014 15:12 | By Jitter

Hasn't Sally Cooke got the message yet? The people of Tauranga don't want this monstrosity. The comments should have so far made this quite clear. Why even take it to TCC for discussion when the message is quite clear, especially a confidential discussion. Is this where the secret deal for the waka on the waterfront will be made. This should not be a confidential discussion but one out in the open after all the negative comments that have been published. Sally Cooke can call it all the wonderful names she likes and list all the marvellous uses it would have, but it is still a monstrous piece of junk which will cost the city one hell of a lot of money to maintain. It will be the ratepayers that will end up paying the bill.


No Way

Posted on 20-09-2014 15:30 | By Rik

That waka will be an eyesore on the strand. Yes we could have a conference centre or something similar in town. but not in that thing. and not the strand should be all gardens and open space.


Sally

Posted on 20-09-2014 15:31 | By rodgero52

If you want it then stick it your back yard, we dont want it here in ours. Why dont you listen to all the feedback against this eyesore being dumped here in Tauranga. WE DONT WANT IT.


Suckers

Posted on 20-09-2014 15:37 | By Raewyn

It is quite obvious Sally wants a place to dump it till she can lease it out to the next suckers!


Hellooo, Sally,

Posted on 20-09-2014 15:40 | By nerak

what part of 'we don't want it' do you not understand?


Business Venture - Yeah Right!

Posted on 20-09-2014 16:00 | By Mary Faith

Who in their right mind could possibly imagine that this proposal will work as a business venture!! Do the sums Sally. At a 2yr hire/lease/ownership this equates to $23,000 per week!!! For 5yrs this equates to $7,700 a week! This is not allowing for transport,resource consents, maintenance, setting the THING up etc etc - millions more! We do not have the population to make this THING profitable. How can the council be so stupid to give credence to this proposterous idea. Wake up Sally - you are dreaming!! If it goes ahead - who underwrites this mad scheme?? Under the Official Information Act ratepayers are entitled to know how much this THING has already cost us - and what it is likely do so in the future! Stop this nonsense now Mr Crosby!


For goodness sake Sally and similar minded ones...

Posted on 20-09-2014 16:18 | By penguin

I cannot believe how naïve you are over this whole deal. From the tenor of your comments above, you seem to be reacting like a spoilt child who is not getting its way. As has been noted, the overwhelming opinion is against the concept on the waterfront and yet you still maintain that the ‘scoping' will start at the northern end of the Strand. What don't you understand about the small word with the big meaning - NO? I am in no way swayed by your latest tear-jerking approach about the perceived importance of the BIG PLASTIC WHALE THING (with apologies to real whales) for the image of Tauranga. One day public opinion will be genuinely listened to and acted upon. Go back to fantasy land and take heed of the real world!


Much better for Napier

Posted on 20-09-2014 16:18 | By R1Squid

Or why not Palmerston North - they have nothing to attract tourists.


Whaka Wubish

Posted on 20-09-2014 16:48 | By Glen Clova

What planet is this woman on,if she wants it put it in her front garden.


No No No

Posted on 20-09-2014 17:07 | By chilli11161

I am getting sick and tired of this council spending money from ratepayers hard earned money, they are so intent of wasting the money they get enough is enough


Seems that

Posted on 20-09-2014 17:16 | By R1Squid

A Counselor advises and an Auditor listens. Perhaps we should vote for auditors to administer this city.


Don't want it....

Posted on 20-09-2014 17:24 | By drgoon

Thanks everyone for voicing your concerns here but we really need to make those feelings known directly to her. sally@tuskany.co.nz


Tub

Posted on 20-09-2014 19:27 | By Ness

Crosby can have it as a farewell present am getting sick of our rates being spent to suit the ego focused council this would be a good reef for the fish


The Deal is DONE

Posted on 20-09-2014 20:12 | By The Caveman

Yes the deal has been done and signed behind closed doors, with the highly justified negative response from the public not expected! So with the deal done, the problem is how the hell do they sell it to the ratepayers?


Terminate

Posted on 21-09-2014 10:22 | By Accountable

I now believe it is time that the Tauranga Mainstreet organisation terminated the contract they have with Sally Cooke/Tuscany Marketing.The CBD has never had as much negative publicity since the employment of this person and her company. In fact looking back all they have achieved is to disrupt and obstruct the many positive proposals put forward to revitalise the CBD. We now need to concentrate first and foremost on the issue of parking and encourage more of our locals to come to the CBD and bringing with them another step towards revitalisation and the giving of confidence to new investors and businesses.


Ideas

Posted on 22-09-2014 22:23 | By Raewyn

It is not too soon for answers Sally , surely you have been reading the response's on Sunlive ,when are you going to get the message Ratepayers do not want it in Tauranga!


I ask you!

Posted on 25-09-2014 14:20 | By DAD

When is Sally and the Council going to listen? We dont want that Waka!


Tup the Tupperwaka

Posted on 03-10-2014 14:13 | By ROCCO

OMG >If it is too soon for answers then stop running around the mulberry bush asking questions Sally Cooke and wasting time by having little secret tete a tetes with the Council ning nongs while wasting our money . Get private funding and stick it where you like at your cost with all the compliance boxes ticked.As a paid servant of CBD businesses you have a cheek going anywhere Council.


Business adventure

Posted on 07-10-2014 11:31 | By YOGI BEAR

is more like it, the fetish with ideas that from the outset are crazy, mad and nuts all at the same time is breathtaking. That despite the obvious the story keeps rolling about how good it is ... yar dee yar dee yar ... history repeats ...


You would think,

Posted on 08-10-2014 10:08 | By robin bell

that a handful of people,with silly names run this town.Always the same ones,always negative.Go for it Sally,If it stacks up great,we need something.If not,can it,we can always go back to 'sleepy hollow' status. Robin Bell.


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