Where’s the best place for buses to park?

A ‘Not In Service’ bus parked across carparks at the front of Tauranga District Courthouse. Photo: Supplied.

Buses parked across carparks in the Tauranga CBD and ‘Not in Service’ buses stationed for hours at Durham St bus stops has got one city resident frustrated.

Bruce Porter, an observant city dweller, says the powers at be are “making a hash” of where buses park when they’re not in service. He’s noticed buses being parked at the Durham St bus stop for hours at a time.

“What they’re doing is using [the Durham St Bus stops] as a changeover point,” says Bruce.

“The drivers go down into Wharf St and have their cups of coffee, and go back – but there might be 14, 15 buses parked. It’s a pick up and drop off point, not park and leave them for hours.”

Bruce says this has been going on for about two-and-a-half years. “I’ve also started to notice that they’re starting to park outside the district courthouse across carparks.”

“They just seem ad hoc. Drivers just pull up in the carparks.”

“Parking is at premium around here [in the CBD] and they’re just making a mockery of it as far as I’m concerned.”

Bruce says there needs to be a designated area for buses to park when they are not in use. “They should have an area for buses to go park somewhere, not taking up valuable land that should be used for carparks. They should have an area, where they locate themselves and park.”

As it happens, at Tauranga City Council’s meeting on Monday, April 29, council discussed just that – highlighting the need of a specific bus “layover”.

“We’ve been working with the [Bay of Plenty] regional council to find locations in or near the city centre where layovers can occur off-street,” says TCC team leader of transport development Tom McEntyre.

“We acknowledge that it’s not ideal to have buses parked or idling in the city centre, and we have a long-term agreement with the regional council to reduce the number of layovers in the area.”

Tom says council is currently in negotiations to secure a layover location that they expect will hold 10 buses at a time for scheduled breaks and waiting between services. At Monday’s meeting, the location discussed is the empty site at 199 Cameron Rd.

The ‘Not in Service’ buses that Bruce porter says stop for hours at a time along Durham St. Photo: supplied.

In response to Bruce witnessing buses parking across carparks outside the courthouse, Tom says new layover locations are being used in the city due to works occurring in the area.

“Having said this, the location you’ve mentioned, is not intended to be occupied by buses and we’ll be reinforcing approved locations with the bus operator through the regional council,” says Tom.

“This potential for confusion will be greatly reduced once the off-street layover space is in use.”

9 comments

Get rid of them

Posted on 03-05-2024 08:04 | By First Responder

Most of them travel empty. Get rid of them. At least reduce the size of them. We don't need them. They are inefficient. Uber of Demand a Bus.


In the medium-term

Posted on 03-05-2024 08:43 | By Bruja

A designated 'Transport hub' such as Christchurch has and includes an 'Orbiter' route around the perimeter of the CBD. Not rocket-science either, just need to copy Christchurch. Sorted.
In the short-term, Durham Street.


Hmmm

Posted on 03-05-2024 09:32 | By Let's get real

This never happened before, because they had a hot-seating policy. The current buses change drivers in the depot now, with drivers being issued a bus for their shift and then returning to the depot.
I think that it's fair to say that the current policy of increased frequency for the service, to try to encourage more use, is an abject failure and if I had any belief in the notion that NZ was polluting the globe, I would suggest that the school children protesters should be demonstrating outside the regional council offices to reduce the number of buses outside peak times.
Even the electric buses burn diesel to run their heaters. Our bus service is actually more detrimental to the environment than the cars on the road, because they run all day and into the late evening, even when empty.


Simple Answer

Posted on 03-05-2024 10:13 | By Yadick

They want to illegally take our carparks, we just park in their bus stops. Problem solved.


Why are these buses so big?

Posted on 03-05-2024 15:08 | By The Sage

Hands up who has seen just one of these buses even half full. They are ridiculously big for the amount of patronage. Reducing the size of buses would be a very good start .


The Master

Posted on 03-05-2024 15:28 | By Ian Stevenson

The whole bus thing is a mess and some, obviously that was always going to happen as Bura-rats are making decisions that they are far from any chance of getting it right ever.

Obviously most buses just take up space and run empty most of the time, affirming the above 100%.

95% of buses need to be sold off and cancelled, this is obvious as <5% of the cost to run them is from passengers, only some <$2m is collecte4d in ticket revenue, whereas the total costs are near to $40m/pa.


Carbrains....

Posted on 03-05-2024 16:47 | By This Guy

People just don't seem to understand that the more people you can get on the bus or a bike means fewer people in front of you in traffic... Car lovers should be encouraging more people to use public transport so they can have an easier time in their cars (be it less traffic or more parking at your destination) - First Responder thinks everyone should get an Uber (ignoring the massive cost compared to a bus) how does putting MORE cars on the road help reduce traffic exactly? Also, big lol at all the anecdotal "the buses are empty" evidence - because that's all you can do when you're sitting in traffic - look around and whinge about the buses and seethe at the bike lane for its existence as an option - Just the standard "I don't use this thing/service, so it should be REMOVED FOR EVERYONE!" attitude


Illegal

Posted on 04-05-2024 14:46 | By Groj

Surely parking across carparks like that is illegal.
I bet I would get a ticket if I parked my work Ute and trailer like that


It is axiomatic...

Posted on 05-05-2024 12:30 | By morepork

...that the buses we have are entirely unsuited to the roads we have. If you've ever watched one of our "buffalo buses" trying to negotiate a roundabout you will understand what I'm talking about. Anyone without vested interest and capable of rational thought, can see that we should cut our losses and divest ourselves of these vehicles while they still have some intrinsic value. We should replace them with buses around half the size, with computer software that can load level and schedule in response to demand. Start with a smaller number of buses and trial them, then expand the number as required. Take a look at other busy population centres around the world and see how they manage it, then adapt that for our conditions. (Hong Kong is a good place to look...). If the fleet is "right sized" there won't be buses sitting idle...


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