The Pilot Bay dinghy debate

Dinghies scattered along the Pilot Bay beachfront could be herded, named and registered if some Tauranga City Councillors have their way.

The resolution to stop the spread of dinghies along the Mount Maunganui beach was defeated at a council meeting this week with councillors instead deciding to explore other options regarding the future of the dinghies.


Tauranga City Council staff will explore future options for the dinghies scattered along Pilot Bay.

The future of the dinghies has become an issue for council due to their interference with the planned Pilot Bay beachfront walkway, set to be constructed in the next two years.

Council staff counted 68 dinghies along the beach chained up and clumped together in various locations, and they have no idea who owns them.

They do not know who to contact when it comes time to move the dinghies lying within the Queen's Chain.

The Pilot Bay dinghies appear on every city council publicity photo of Pilot Bay, and their character and visual appeal was also noted by some councillors.

Councillors Larry Baldock and Tony Christiansen led the anti-dinghy brigade, with Tony suggesting the council maintain smaller numbers of dinghies that can be leased to mooring holders.

Tony argued that Pilot Bay dinghies would not be used more than three or four times a year, so a smaller number would easily go around the 40 moored boats in the bay.

Larry says there's one law for some and one law for others, that if you have salt in your veins you are somehow supposed to be allowed to dump your dinghy on the waterfront, and expect everybody else to put up with it.

'It's ridiculous,” says Larry.

'Name one other public space where you can dump something and expect it to be there is a year's time when you come back.”

Bill Faulkner rallied support for the dinghies saying they are an intrinsic part of Pilot Bay. The returns on a registration scheme would not cover the costs and there was no need for council to register them or even to know who owned them.

'The penalty people pay for leaving dinghies there is they get stolen or vandalised,” says Bill.
'It's a self-regulating thing, if it's not broken, let's not fix it.”

When's Bill's motion that staff explore options passed, Larry Baldock moved that a registration system be introduced, and that only mooring holders be allowed to leave dinghies in Pilot Bay.

This motion was not passed.

Councillor David Stewart had visions of a huge sledgehammer being used to crack a little nut.

'This has been there for years and years, it is a point of interest for those of us that walk along there and look at the boats,” says David.

'It gives that maritime feeling. If ever there is a place to park your dinghy it is on the side of the beach and harbour. It's gone on for years and really hasn't caused any problems.”

David says the boardwalk is the cause of change and the location of the dinghies can be managed without the council having to go to the expense of introducing a registration regime.

'All we need to do is manage the location of the dinghies and there is not so many dinghies that it causes problems. This is what living at the beach is all about, and rightly so.”

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21 comments

Mountains and molehills

Posted on 29-06-2012 13:53 | By penguin

It never ceases to amaze me how some people and councils can turn something easy into a "can't think of a solution" issue. So, some dinghies are chained together and this would 'cause a problem for moving them out of the way of the boardwalk”. Now, even Pooh Bear of 'little brain' would know how to organise a few people to work in tandem and move the dinghies down the beach a little in about 10 minutes!!!!


Yeah right

Posted on 29-06-2012 14:19 | By tibs

The picture above where the dinghies are placed on the beach to grass transition would suggest to me that it is unlikely anyone in their right mind would want to put a board walk there. It's on a slope for a start. L Baldock says: "dump your dinghy on the waterfront, and expect everybody else to put up with it" Someone dumped him onto the council and we have to put up with it. It gets better: "Tony suggesting the council maintain smaller numbers of dinghies that can be leased to mooring holders" This would be a maintained lease, would it? Imagine the cost. Also I doubt the existence of "The Queen's Chain", let alone there being a chain between the road and the high tide mark in many parts of The Mall. Do us a favor councillors and Services Managers, Butt Out! Declaration: I don't have a dinghy down there but have had in the past.


Dodo debate

Posted on 29-06-2012 14:34 | By SpeakUp

Again, the sticky-beak pinheads at Council coming up with non-of-their-business bureaucratic nonsense regulation. They surely do have too much time on their hands. And we surely have too many bureaucrats if they have time for this non-mandated, non-core busy-body business. This is again another example of their unbearable nuisance of self-serving and self-propagating bureaucracy near and wide infiltrating every arena of thought and discussion. It is an stubborn band of miserable nit-pickers, each wielding a false pretence of servicing the public. Parasitic self-assurance and unfathomed ignorance never cares about the host. They run free. Misery upon us that they, so ill-equipped with respect for the producing public, force themselves onto our salvation. The world and surely the city would be better off without many of them.


Nothing Else to do

Posted on 29-06-2012 14:41 | By JillFryer

Gosh isn't there anything more important for our elected councilors to do... The dinghies are part of a seaside resorts character. Go sterilise your own homes if you want but leave the beauty and charater of dinghies on the seashore alone.


hands off please

Posted on 29-06-2012 14:42 | By earlybird

Why not just leave things the way they are? A dingy here and there adds character to the beach and don't bother anyone that I know.


Larry are you for real?

Posted on 29-06-2012 14:49 | By waiknot

To quote Larry "Larry says there's one law for some and one law for others, that if you have salt in your veins you are somehow supposed to be allowed to dump your dinghy on the waterfront, and expect everybody else to put up with it. 'It's ridiculous,” says Larry. So Larry do you hold the same views about people with god in their veins believing its ok to push your views on others?


status quo

Posted on 29-06-2012 15:02 | By pdf071

Eventually the owners of boats will disappear and with them the boats. My rates are better spent on other things. Has any body consulted the seagulls who perch on them?


Why now?

Posted on 29-06-2012 15:25 | By wreck1080

Why build a boardwalk now anyway? The council should be firstly trying to sort out the debt problem instead of arguing about dinghy registration. We cannot afford to do boardwalks and all these little nice things until they get a handle on paying down the significant debt . This council thinks they can keep living beyond their means forever. Anyway, I don't think we even need a boardwalk. I like Pilot bay as it is.


The one thing thats overlooked

Posted on 29-06-2012 15:32 | By AratakiJive

is the wakas thats are sprawled down by the public toilets. No mention of moving them is there? Perhaps it just might offend the sensibilities of local Maori. They obviously would be a huge hinderence to a boardwalk. Boardwalk? I have heard that it's going to be "patterned"concrete.. how ugly will that be?


Baldock and Christiansen busybodies?

Posted on 29-06-2012 15:58 | By Phailed

This is what happens when you elect people that seem to like to have control over more and more aspects of your lives.


There are worthwhile ways to spend ratepayers' earnings; there's a good chance this isn't one of them.

Posted on 30-06-2012 00:50 | By Rich

Residents of Tauranga Moana already have an excellent boardwalk on one side of the Mount peninsula, and the distance between the two sides is minimal. Although the boardwalk that is already in place is nice, and gets a lot of use, I am sure that many people would prefer the Pilot Bay side to be left without a boardwalk. If walkers near Pilot Bay want to use a boardwalk, they haven't got far to travel to get to one. If the logistics of dealing with dinghies is a problematic part of planning an installation that could end up with an "over-processed" waterfront, anyway, then perhaps the Council should consider leaving Pilot Bay in its current state, as much as environmental forces will allow. Ratepayer's money could be saved, Pilot Bay's "character" could be saved, and the public could be saved from some bureaucratic bungling. Phailed - Although my worldview doesn't always align with Larry's, including regarding how best to deal with the Pilot Bay dinghies, I know that he has spent considerable time and effort to secure freedoms that our forefathers knew, and would have desired their descendants of today still would. With consideration of Larry's overall approach to governance, over many years, I believe your post is a misrepresentation.


Fair enough

Posted on 30-06-2012 10:50 | By Mr bay

I can't just leave my car parked there forever using it once or twice a month. There should be a register for these dinghys instead of just any joe blogs leaving it there. As for the board walk properly don't require it as it will take up to much space where family's sit and have picnics.


REGISTER WHAT?

Posted on 30-06-2012 13:29 | By PLONKER

So more officials employed, anotehr chance for fimes and torture of Joe Public, sounds all to much like the caravan/park up over night situation, where a real NZer gets fined for doing a bit of Kiwiania! This is all crazy stuff meanwhile the big stuff goes on by ...


ANOTHER TIME WASTER

Posted on 02-07-2012 01:05 | By PLONKER

Looks like the real stuff is ignored and not even realised as to what it is about, the trival is missed completely, just another day "warming the seat" right?


TCC DEBT

Posted on 03-07-2012 10:58 | By PLONKER

$386 Million, on that it has risen from $50m in 9 years and the future is looking a bit dimmer as a result.


@ Mr bay

Posted on 06-07-2012 13:31 | By tibs

Actually if your car is registered, warranted and parked legally, i.e.not over the time limit, you could leave it parked there indefinitely. However over the years, many vehicles parked there typically by commercial fishermen have suffered badly from rust. Hence the dinghies are wooden, fiberglass or aluminum or root-moulded plastic. Also, they really do no harm. If you've travelled overseas at all, you'll have noticed similar situations in many sea ports that have a local fining industry.


untitled

Posted on 07-07-2012 07:54 | By faust01

Aren't the dinghies used by people to get out to their boats which they have paid to moor in pilot bay ? Focus on something that actually matters.


WHO IS THE REAL DINGHY HERE?

Posted on 07-07-2012 13:27 | By YOGI

the Pilot bay beach is not exactly busy on most days, in fact normally it is cold/freezing becasue of the wind from the south coming over the water, far better to be on the ocean beach side where one is sheltered from the wind. In fact your average citizen realises that in an automatic sort of way. End result the dinghies on teh beach make little difference to anyone and have always been there, like many decades. If they are removed that will mean that more room will be needed for boaties to be able to cart them to and from home and have some where to park for the day witha trailer as a result. What a waste of everyones time ...


Priorities

Posted on 09-07-2012 13:26 | By tibs

I read that the southern steps on Salisbury Wharf are closed for emergency repairs. If that is as a result of a vessel damaging them, then fair enough. But if it is because they've been "discovered" to be in a poor or unsafe condition, then you'd have to wonder if the Council Services Manager might have been better off monitoring the condition of the wharf than strolling along the beach counting the dinghies.


Job Vacancy imminent @TCC

Posted on 19-07-2012 18:32 | By POCO O POCO

Checked the dinghies out yesterday . Around 10 in total all neatly stored up off the beach and clearly used to get out to the moored boats.Doing no one any harm and show me any harbour beach in the world that doesn't have dinghies scattered about it is part of their charm and character. The TCC staffer who had nothing better to do with his/her time should the first to get DCM card in the upcoming staff audit.


RIGHT ON THE MONEY

Posted on 19-07-2012 20:07 | By Scambuster

Hardly anyone on the Pilot Bay beach ever -why prevailing adverse weather conditions . Dinghies all located in one place basically down the Mauao end of the beach.Earlier this week in brilliantly fine weather there were zero people on the beach or immediate foreshore and it can be like that in Summer too. Perhaps TCC CRS Baldock Molloy and Christiansen you might have been better advised to pay more attention to your 2012JAZZ FEST financial carnage and not keep sweating the small stuff. Stop being dinghy dingdongs and dingbats.


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