86?

Posted on 06-04-2016 09:50 | By Amnesia Oasis

Why is this guy even on the list at all? He plays the same simple monotonous drum beat every song without variation. His idea of a fill is to hit the tomtom once. Everything sounds the same. He would have to be the most uncreative drummers of all time. I've never even seen him open his hi-hat. If you think I am exaggerating, just watch any ACDC video and observe. To sum up, he's just a human metronome. I'm certainly no drummer, but even I could do what he does.

Get it on

Posted on 06-04-2016 11:50 | By spikeredmires

I thought at last something positive about Phil Rudd and then a tirade of negatives from a comment who admits their not even a drummer. ACDC are the best and it takes a team to make a band great. Give Phil a break

Wonderful story

Posted on 06-04-2016 12:43 | By The Sage

Great to get a positive story on Phil Rudd. Well deserved. as for you Amnesia Oasis, try doing it yourself and let's hear from you again when you've been successful and earned as much money as he has.

Lost

Posted on 06-04-2016 12:53 | By Amnesia Oasis

What is your point? That's like saying that I unless I am a chef, I am not in a position to give my opinion about the taste of a prepared meal ???

@spikeredmires....

Posted on 06-04-2016 12:53 | By Jimmy Ehu

he has copped enough breaks from our justice system, and being the 86th best drummer, that's only someone who has compiled a list opinion, once played with ACDC now just plays with himself!!!!, at least we have not have had to endure any "bad boy rocker" antics from him lately, but I guess visits from the constabulary at odd hours checking on his bail conditions will do that, and 86th give me strength, that's a claim to what?, and has it made him a better person?, money doesn't buy you class?, and ACDC the best, well that's only your opinion, and musical taste.

Credit where it's due.

Posted on 06-04-2016 13:55 | By morepork

Poor old Phil has had a lot of bad press (mostly deserved and he seems to be expert at auto foot shooting) but talent is talent and it deserves recognition. Amnesia Oasis has a right to his very well expressed opinion, just like any of us, but he admits it is not necessarily an INFORMED opinion. Be that as it may, Phil Rudd's peers have voted him as one of the best and I'm sure this has come as a glimmer in the dark he is currently experiencing. Everybody deserves a break occasionally; there's no need to put the boot in when a man is down.

Overit

Posted on 06-04-2016 16:33 | By overit

Phil, you rock!

Fame doesn't equal skill

Posted on 06-04-2016 16:39 | By Amnesia Oasis

Anybody could sit down behind a drum kit for ten minutes and learn pretty much any of the ACDC songs that have ever been recorded. Phil Rudd has never done anything outstanding. Although a drummer's primary task is to maintain the beat which to his credit he does, he maintains it so mechanically, like a human metronome. He could be replaced by any nine-year-old who has had two weeks of drum lessons. If you play the "Back in Black" album and listen to how many times you hear the exact same drum beat you will see what I'm talking about. Just being a member of a famous group like ACDC does not mean you are a skilled musician. Just look at the example of Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols. He could hardly play a note on the bass.

Winner

Posted on 06-04-2016 17:30 | By GreertonCynic

"he's just a human metronome" Sums it up quite nicely.

CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE

Posted on 06-04-2016 17:47 | By Colleen Spiro

Credit where credit is due, but Sunlive took the opportunity to mention the bad, as did others.

Well done Phil

Posted on 07-04-2016 08:12 | By earlybird

Pay no attention to all the negative comments. You have achieved a lot whereas they have probably achieved nothing themselves that comes anywhere near you. I hope that the home detention has enabled you to get your addictions under control.

Amnesia

Posted on 07-04-2016 09:52 | By Kenworthlogger

Lets see you do it. I feel like a good laugh lol. Good to see some good news about Phill. Well done. Clearly you were very sucessful. Unfortunatly some kiwis dont like tall poppies.

Rhythm

Posted on 07-04-2016 10:45 | By penguin

He's also managed to get off-beat during his "career." Hardly illustrious.

The facts speak

Posted on 07-04-2016 11:13 | By Amnesia Oasis

The mere fact that he is 86 places DOWN from the #1 position speaks more than a 1000 words. Need I say more ?

Amnesia

Posted on 07-04-2016 13:36 | By Kenworthlogger

Yes it says you like to hack down tall poppies. Where is your name on the list?? Oh nowhere.... That says it all.....

Simple arithmetic

Posted on 07-04-2016 16:43 | By Amnesia Oasis

In a field of 100 candidates there are only 14 are ranked by his peers worse than him.............draw your own conclusions.

Amnesia

Posted on 07-04-2016 17:13 | By Kenworthlogger

Surley even someone like you know that there are more than 100 drummers in the world. Out of a total world population of oh a couple of billion to place in the top 100 people is totally amazing. This is why he can buy lots of Ferraris and welll ..,you can just dream.....

Posted on 07-04-2016 17:30 | By crazyhorse

Golly, some of the commentators have a real "hate on" for poor old Ruddy. Say what you like at least he pays his way, eh, lot more than a lot of others of our fair country can say, anybody seen him with his hand out?. Like him or hate him at least he worked for what he got, shame he blows so much on dope, but that's his business!, and as far as music goes every body's different or is that a problem as well, I love ACADACA, go Ruddy, he he.

THIS IS AWESOME

Posted on 07-04-2016 19:40 | By The author of this comment has been removed.

Go Phil you are the best MATE, we all make mistakes in our lives,ive made some,STUFF everyone else, you deserve what you have got,GOOD ON YOU,take no notice like i do,i like living in my log, maybe you could slip over and see me on my 200 acre block,im proud of you over the years, you know me Phil, all the best mate,Mumma bear says its bedtime so signing off now 10-4 and goodnight,do this all again tomorrow.NO1 in Bay Thanks from mumma and teddy bear,out.

Obvious conclusion

Posted on 08-04-2016 07:43 | By Amnesia Oasis

In the March 31st 2016 edition of Rolling Stone Greatest Drummer Rankings article When expounding the criterion used on which the rankings were based on, RS included the following caveat. I quote: "One important caveat: we used rock and pop as our rubric, so a drummer's work needed to directly impact that world (as we define it, of course) to make the list." From this preambular point in the article we can reasonably deduce that Phil Rudd's unimaginative mediocre drumming is of such inconsequential significance that it has had extremely minimal impact in the world of "rock and pop" as reflected in his 86/100 position.

Obvious Conclusion

Posted on 08-04-2016 12:28 | By The Sage

My obvious conclusion of Amnesia Oasis is that they have an axe to grind. Either that or they are particularly bored and have nothing else to do with their time. Phil you rock, listen to none of this negative rubbish.

@Amnesia Oasis

Posted on 08-04-2016 15:16 | By morepork

You have a right to feel anyway you want to, but can you seriously say ANYONE (specifically, yourself...) could do what Phil Rudd has done with his music? And why so deprecating about ONLY 86th? KenworthLogger made the point; there are many drummers in the world; 86th is an achievement. Excellence in ALL fields of endeavour should be acknowledged and encouraged, not torn down and rubbished. OK, you don't like the man; we got that. I'm sure he speaks very highly of you... :-)

Best Drummer

Posted on 08-04-2016 17:12 | By GreertonCynic

Someone asked "Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?" - John answered "He's not even the best drummer in The Beatles." And "Left Hook" Rudd is 72 places behind. He could be replaced by a black plastic box in about 10 minutes.

Chalk and cheese

Posted on 09-04-2016 09:03 | By Amnesia Oasis

The marked difference between the unimaginative monotonous drumming style of Phil Rudd and the creative styles of more adventurous drummers becomes clearly evident if we listen to the same song first played by ACDC and then played by another band. Take for example "Highway to Hell". If we listen to the ACDC version we hear that same old repetitive 4/4 beat that we hear in all ACDC songs. (Except the ones that Chris Slade played on). Then listen to Mikkey Dee's more creative syncopated drumming and time changes on the Motorhead version of the same song. You will immediately notice how Dee's drumming nuances enhance the overall quality thus giving it a superior sound. This is why RS ranked so many other drummers above Rudd. The proof is there for the listening.

Rudd

Posted on 10-04-2016 17:49 | By Kenworthlogger

Ok if Rudd could be replaced with a plastic box in 10 minutes why wasnt he? No one pays you millions if you are not worth it. To be in the top 100 of anything in the world is amazing.

idiotic

Posted on 11-04-2016 10:54 | By CC8

WHAT an idiotic statement,style is different for every performer , amnesia obviously has an axe to grind, maybe SHE was rejected! In any case I am sure Phil lives by the same motto as myself.. "whatever somebody else thinks of me , is NONE of my business"

Old trucker

Posted on 15-04-2016 12:35 | By Old

Phil good on you,, can't say I agree with the happening of late. You are good at what you do......old trucker. 200 acre in tga city',,,,,puff puff again, must be good stufffffffffffff

Really...

Posted on 20-04-2016 16:51 | By Point Blank

I wouldn't read too much into this list as Buddy Rich came in at 15 BEHIND Charlie Watts and a few other drummers not of his calibre !!! Even John Bonham (who came in at No 1) was in awe of Buddy Rich... you tube him if you don't believe Rich was the greatest of all time. Rudd is, by the way, a very good drummer and deserves to be in the top 100... well that's my 2 cents anyway.

Good news

Posted on 24-04-2016 07:24 | By Ellajj

It's good to hear some good news about Phil. Usually it's not!

Non music industry opinion

Posted on 25-04-2016 12:31 | By Amnesia Oasis

Even judge Thomas Ingram who presided over his court case said in his final summing up that Rudd's "drumming wasn't anything special". (quote from July 2015, Tauranga Courthouse)

Amnesia

Posted on 28-04-2016 14:09 | By Kenworthlogger

Nothing like jealousy ah...

Furthermore

Posted on 01-05-2016 07:57 | By Amnesia Oasis

Judge Ingram added: "there was no evidence to suggest he was with the band anymore or going forward". (Source: Tauranga Courthouse July 9 2015)

Amnesia

Posted on 01-05-2016 13:31 | By Kenworthlogger

You sound so bitter because you have amounted to nothing while Rudd is a very good and very wealthy drummer. Nothing like sour grapes ah Amnesia?