Elms gets council backing

The Elms has been handed a $150,000 lifeline by Tauranga City Council, though it comes with a financial warning to spend the money wisely.

Councillors voted 7-4 in favour of granting the funds to The Elms Foundation for the next 10 years - a reduction from the $200,000 recommended to council as part of their Long Term Plan deliberations.


The Elms, on Mission Street in Tauranga. Photo: File.

The figure, however, will be reviewed on an annual basis as council looks to help ensure ongoing protection and operation of the heritage site.

Tauranga Mayor Stuart Crosby and councillors Bev Edlin, Gail McIntosh and Bill Grainger all opposed the amount, with Gail plumping for just $100,000 and the other three opting for the full $200,000.

The decision comes after The Elms Foundation sought assistance from council during last month's Long Term Plan submission process after losing funding and services from Tauranga Charitable Trust.

It was outlined by trustees chair Norah Reid that all cash reserves would be depleted by mid-2015 after being supported by the Tauranga Charitable Trust since they bought the property from the Maxwell family in 1998.

The site on Mission Street is one of the most historic sites in New Zealand and has a living history of early Tauranga, with no payments made to trustees, accountancy staff, the 47 guides, consultants or the active gardening team.

But Councillor Steve Morris questioned what the remaining $115,000 is allocated for if only $85,000 is set aside for the site's rent. Councillor Gail McIntosh was also critical of estimated 5000 cultural artefacts stored at Newton Street as part of the Tauranga Heritage Collection.

Council's strategic and corporate planning team leader Cheryl Steiner says the outstanding figure will be used to raise the profile of The Elms within the city, through promotions and marketing along with staff salaries.

She adds The Elms' items stored at Newton Street, if taken out of storage, would do little to reduce the $400,000 currently paid in rent each year.

Councillors seriously debated a suitable amount for the group, which ranged from fully investing $200,000 in Tauranga's heritage site, to just $100,000 before the proposed $150,000.

Councillor Bev Edlin says Tauranga needs to come to terms what is such an historic site right on its doorstep.

'We have a piece of heritage here in New Zealand, which is the second oldest building in the country,” says Bev.

'We have an asset here and we are sending them a sign that we don't want them to go forward [if $200,000 isn't granted].

'They are looking to make it a seven-day-a-week operation and they have worked hard. We need to recognise the volunteer time that goes into running this facility. They are not asking to be paid, just the actual staff.”

But Gail believes if $100,000 is granted it will help The Elms focus its approach even more, touting a possible move to cooperating with the Tauranga Moana Museum Trust and discussions surrounding a joint museum for the city.

Councillor Rich Curach was hesitant of the higher amount, given the group came to council at the last minute during the LTP submissions.

He feels council needs to review The Elms after a year to see whether council's 'extra $115,000” has been a good investment.

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17 comments

The elms

Posted on 03-06-2015 13:23 | By spikeredmires

Lived in Tauranga for nearly 9 years and I've never heard of the place.The 150k allocated would be better suited to helping towards Tauranga having its own Museum. It was 10 years since the last survay was done and i'm sure all those that didn't support it then have gone to a better place up there. Lets have a bit ambition Tauranga instead of moaning about rate payers have to pay for some of the costs. I'm sure rate payers wouldn't mind paying if they had some trust in the way council handles its business.


Somethings 'just not right'?

Posted on 03-06-2015 15:28 | By Murray.Guy

They need $200,000 per year as the Tauranga Charitable Trust is or has ceased it's support. This suggests that the Tauranga Charitable Trust was contributing that amount, in cash, per year or close to it. The published income figures made no mention of any income from the 'Trust' and a paltry amount in rental income despite having been gifted 4-6 residential properties by the community to provide an income stream. Cr. Curach wants to see if the rates money pays any dividends in 12 months - he won't see anything as this is allegedly just to keep it going. What is it about the business model that has it so money hungry, why is it that Classic Flyers Museum are sustainable and not dependant on ratepayers? Both are volunteer and visitor based.


A good cause like many

Posted on 03-06-2015 15:30 | By Annalist

The Elms is great and certainly is genuinely historic when you compare it with the historic village. But the problem seems that council is constantly called to fund a neverending series of things from arts to sports to lifesaving facilities, to homeless shelters, to museums to art galleries etc. Council can only get the money it spends from one source, the ratepayer. I believe most ratepayers want spending reigned in, not spent up.


Rastus

Posted on 03-06-2015 15:57 | By rastus

spikeredmires says he/she has never heard of the Elms - Shame on you because this is a REAL museum that is, through lots of work by the Maxwells and continued by volunteers to be a genuine part of Tauranga's and NZs history, available for all to experience, not just a heartless building filled with things from the past, selectively displayed by another tier of elitist academics (aka an Art Gallery) Anyone who has been to TePapa will know what I am talking about!


Idiots of the World unite

Posted on 03-06-2015 16:06 | By CONDOR

No documentation no justification no nothing just open hands a begging bowl that wouldn't be out of place on third world streets. TCC suckerpunched yet again every ones having a go at this punch drunk money pit the only people that can't get a shot in are ratepayers.


Tauranga Charitable Trust

Posted on 03-06-2015 16:07 | By YOGI BEAR

So how much were they putting into it? Is this more, as it is TCC sure to be and so what a waste of an idea....


Worth Supporting by us All

Posted on 03-06-2015 17:40 | By carpedeum

Second oldest building in NZ- right here at our doorstep !! Fantastic elevated location- beautiful garden.Great treasures inside What is wrong with you people who have NO appreciation of our OWN HISTORY !!!!


Huh

Posted on 03-06-2015 18:06 | By Capt_Kaveman

what a waste of money, as a historic site whats up with the rent?? take notes for next election


spikeredmires

Posted on 03-06-2015 18:50 | By How about this view!

Just what IS "The Elms" if not a museum? Another big empty building being lavishly funded by ratepayers.... Look but don't touch... Do these remarks remind you of another waste of space? The Art gallery for example.


Choice

Posted on 03-06-2015 21:17 | By Kaimai

If I had a choice, or if anyone asked me (highly unlikely unless there's an election) I'd prefer The Elms to the Art Gallery any day.


Well worth it

Posted on 04-06-2015 00:50 | By Oldboy

Well done TCC - very worthwhile spending. I for one expect the council to support valuable Tauranga heritage sites like this. Costs for maintaining such a site are not insignificant and $150k seems fair enough. In my opinion, better to see this piece of history kept for future generations than spent on a Hairy Maclary sculpture.


carpedeum

Posted on 04-06-2015 05:20 | By How about this view!

We already spend exorbitant amounts of good money on things that sit around all day doing nothing but collecting dust, City council, Art exhibitions, the unemployed/able. You're just suggesting that because it's old, it somehow becomes relevant in a modern world? Things move on, grow old and pass away to be seen no more (Unless you happen to be a communist leader in a glass box). Why pass on a never ending, ever increasing debt to our future generations for a collection of decaying lumber that is so full of borer holes that the upper floors may never be visited again? Generally, historical sites and museums are irrelevant until we become too old to do other things and we need somewhere dry and warm to hide for a few hours.


Love the Elms

Posted on 04-06-2015 14:09 | By Lizzie Bennet

Thank you council for footing the bill. We need to value our heritage. I would willingly pay more rates to help pay for a museum also.


Ignorance

Posted on 04-06-2015 16:25 | By Colleen Spiro

Spikeredmire and "How about this view" don't seem to get out much....


Lizzie Bennet

Posted on 04-06-2015 17:39 | By How about this view!

Well bully for you Lizzie. Maybe you'd like to pay my rates as well? I was brought up in a household where EVERY coin counted and parents went hungry in order to feed their kids. Maybe a little financial hardship amoungst our obscenely overpaid officials (Elected and un-elected) would give cause for some HONEST sole searching BEFORE pen is put to paper.


DON

Posted on 04-06-2015 17:50 | By kellbell

Sorry it is not a question of not supporting history and heritage stuff it is about baling outfits out at the bottom of the cliff at the 12th hour because they cannot put their own financial affairs in order. What's more they show no sign of doing so in the future once they are on the dependency drip feed.RIDICULOUS.


Tauranga Council

Posted on 08-06-2015 12:35 | By YOGI BEAR

perhaps there needs to be a name change for this outfit. A clone of WINZ, perhaps "WIT-less", "Want It Tauranga". maybe something similar. TCC would make the perfect addition to WINZ activities as all associated and within would seem to be perfectly qualified in all respects to be on the WINZ payroll not the ratepayer payroll?


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