Hot pools leak – two tankers full

Specific details about the leak at the Mount Hot Pools, which was causing water temperature fluctuations, are now known.

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In a media statement, Tauranga City Aquatics Limited board chairman Warren Banks has said the scale of the leak amounts to a pouring of 50 cubic metres of water into the pools daily.

He equates this to two tankers worth of water each day.

This water was not heated, estimated to be about 14 degrees each day, and it was this water causing erratic temperatures in the pools.

In the statement, Warren says it was impossible to trace the leak because of a back-up system, which topped up water in the pools to make sure of a steady level.

'The pools when built in the 1980s have never had separate water meters so it was impossible, until these were added in May 2011, to detect when makeup water was being added,” says Warren.

'Normally separate meters are not designed into pool facilities, but following this experience we have also had meters fitted to Baywave TECT Aquatic Centre pools this week.

'Following monitoring of the water meters for a week we were able to detect significant make up water continually being added to the children's and passive pools.”

He says finding the leak was also difficult because the pools are also constructed on a sand base so water did not rise to the surface, but instead leeched away in the sand base.

'Such leakage puts the whole pipe work and pool foundation system under pressure and may have contributed to other pipe breaks due to the age of the piping (mid 1980s) and design of this pipe work layered above each other in a single trench.”

Warren says replacement of pipe work and filtration and heating systems was planned as part of the Hot Pools Redevelopment.

This project was terminated this year by Commissioner Greg Hill; creating uncertainty over when the repair works would be done.

'This work had not been actioned due to project approval hold-ups and recently the resource consent decision which is now being appealed.”

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17 comments

Words

Posted on 11-06-2011 08:47 | By tabatha

Warren you are paid to look after Tauranga's assets with the pools, stop making up excuses and get some action. People come to Tauranga in the winter for the hotpools and this winter is going to be a lean one for the businesses of the Mount, what immediate action are they going to see, come less talk more action even if you have to get on the shovel yourself.


Strange

Posted on 11-06-2011 08:54 | By Capt_Kaveman

how the upgrade was turned down then a very short time later we have a major leak


Disaster

Posted on 11-06-2011 12:46 | By dgk

~50,000 litres of water a day leaking out. Makes me glad that the planned redevelopment didn't happen. Building onto a flawed foundation is a recipe for complete disaster. And does anyone know what erosion is happening under the pools from this huge amount of water every day? Or didn't the chair of TCAL think to ask that obvious question?


A vote of no confidence in TCAL &TCC

Posted on 11-06-2011 14:00 | By KAMIKAZE

How much water was leaking and TCAL did not notice it .The leak rumour has been floating around for a year, so they must be slow on the uptake.Question --what made TCAL install the meters in May 2011 if they didn't previously suspect leaking then ?


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Posted on 11-06-2011 15:37 | By methinks

So you knew the work needed doing but you put it on hold waiting for the go ahead for the spa (that nobody wants). This was how many months ago? You must have been pretty certain you were going to get the green light! (of course you did coz Ms Delahunty had let the contract for it). To continue to put off major repairs like this you lot should be shot! From the way this story reads you were going to continue to delay the repairs waiting for the your appeal to be heard. TCAL's shabby ethics could have cost the CC and ratepayers millions, you had no idea where the gigantic leak was, it could have been undermining some pretty major infrastructure in the area for all you knew BUT your board was quite happy to let it go until the appeal - UNBELIEVABLE!! I say once again - and you guys continue to keep your jobs - how? You are appealing for a project that the majority of ratepayers do not want that will run at a loss, cost the ratepayers not only construction but running costs when it turns into the big white elephant that everyone keeps telling you that it is. The spa is wrong on so many different levels it's not funny. The way you maintain the assets in your care now doesn't bode well for future assets does it, you're just lucky


COMPETENT MANAGEMENT STYLE

Posted on 11-06-2011 16:59 | By MISS ADVENTURE

Surely someone noticed the tempature was below what was stated on the wall (like that is there all day every day) at that point someone surely would haev asked a "simple little question" why is that happening ...? follo the trail and in a couple a days we find that water is missing blah blah fixed, instead it is head in the sand and pretend it is not there ... PROVEN LEADERSHIP RIDES AGAIN!


Stick to the learners pool

Posted on 11-06-2011 17:48 | By Openknee8ted

TCAL you are clearly out of your depth in the adults pool. TCC get rid of TCAL and you can stop wasting money on this group of learners. Even your Deputy Dog couldn't cope because everyone was splashing him and he went home in a huff.


Methinks. Yes Yes Yes

Posted on 11-06-2011 20:08 | By Scambuster

You hit the nail flush on the head the TCAL circus has to go as do those in TCC that have been conniving with them.That is all there is to it while we still have 6 months to sift through the wreckage and salvage something.


Impossible?

Posted on 11-06-2011 21:39 | By tibs

It was impossible to trace the leak because of a back up system, which topped up water in the pools to make sure of a steady level. Ok, so let's get this clear, this system isn't pump driven otherwise they'd have been able to see, hear or feel that the pump was running continuously, regularly or quite a lot. There can't be a valve to close it off,, or they could have done that and then notice the level drop in the pool(s). If it's water from the TCC mains, then there should be a flowback preventer installed as all local pool owners must have. Then the meters were so good, they had to run out and organise a set for Baywave, where there hasn't been a sign of a problem, or is there one there that's been hushed up? Or was it a "proactive" action, or just some spare dosh to be burnt up? These statements above are from a man associated with a storage terminal, if my memory serves me correctly, I'd have thought that he'd have had sufficient knowledge beforehand to kick this investigation off. Now he just seems to be taking the heat of the TCAL CEO, whose job I'd have thought it would be to front this. I'd like it confirmed by an engineer that the ground below the hot pools could absorb 50,00 litres per day over presumably many days and certainly for at least the week that they watched their shiny new meters. That would be at least 350,000 litres by their own figures. I'd imagine that their would have been a good degree of compaction to the ground, before building the pools, otherwise they'd have sunk by now, without any help from leaking water as there'd be significant weight on the pools. Really, he seems to be blaming the original designers and builders for the current problems, twenty plus years later. Whereas really a lot of blame lies with the people who were refusing to believe the pool users when they complained about temperatures. The meters that were really required, were THERMOmeters, to measure the pool. It's unbelievable that they could measure the temperature in the pump house and argue against complaints about pool temperature. Apart from which, do none of the pool staff swim in those pools and notice the temperature. I believe the do regular early morning manual cleaning in the pools. What would make it impossible to detect a problem would be reluctance or refusal on their part accept that the punters could be right. Then they give a construction company the job with a price range of $1 to $1.5 million. Never mind the local companies that have done such good work there in the past. The most impossible aspect to all this, in my opinion, is that of believing what they're feeding us. Like a good mushroom, I feel I'm being kept in the dark and fed on horse#*@#!


WATCH OUT

Posted on 11-06-2011 23:36 | By STRAITAS

People watch out. These guys, TCAL, must have known about the leaks they where waiting for the stupid Healthness Centre to get the approval then they would have Dupted JOE PUBLIC about the leaks and worked it in with the New Development. Thanks to those daily users of the pools TCAL where caught out. MAN UP no excuses now get the dam pools repaired correctly, quickly and for the RIGHT PRICE


Unbelievable

Posted on 11-06-2011 23:46 | By Fonzie

Swimming pool- main ingredient water right? No water meters. Can we believe these people ? Every house and business premises has water meters but not these guys whose whole business is water


Meters?

Posted on 12-06-2011 13:25 | By tibs

These guys don't need meters, they use smoke and mirrors instead.


Front up

Posted on 12-06-2011 16:11 | By The author of this comment has been removed.

The manager at the pool knew what was happening but had had his hands tied from above.Front up TCAL


BOTTOMLESS HOLE IN MA BUCKET DEAR JAMIMA!

Posted on 12-06-2011 16:16 | By THE RING MASTER

Where the idea of "Thy cup runith over" has never been seen ... I would guess that BLACK HOLES really do exist!


fixes

Posted on 12-06-2011 17:20 | By Roddo

well if its the pool shell, why dont you get them fibreglassed, simple really,but then that be thinking, same story as Te Puke pools


FOOLS & POOLS

Posted on 12-06-2011 18:17 | By Scambuster

Change all the TCAL personnel asap locate the problem repair same then complete all way overdue maintenance and TLC on Hotpools and move on .Simple if TCC can't follow that directive then appoint a group of very concerned pool users to do the job in half the time at half the cost.


OVER THE LIMIT IN THE MOUNT

Posted on 13-06-2011 09:50 | By WORMTONGUE

Perhaps that explains the shortage of liquids? Or perhaps a City Planner who was over three times the limit could shed a little light on that one.


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