Avoidable crashes frustrate police

Tauranga Police are growing more and more frustrated with avoidable crashes happening on Western Bay of Plenty roads.

Yesterday, police attended several calls to crashes, with Whakamarama and Omanawa Roads proving to be double trouble.


A car rolled and hit a bank on Omanawa Road this morning. This is the second time in as many days that this has happened, with a crash at the same spot yesterday.

Acting Senior Sergeant Phil Gillbanks says police were called to a car that had slid off the road at Whakamarama yesterday morning.

'While we were in attendance another one left the road as well, on a slippery corner,” says Phil.

'There was another yesterday on Omanawa Road where a vehicle left the road, hit a bank and rolled. At the same place today, there was a second one.”

Phil says there were a few incidents yesterday because of the slippery roads following a dumping of rain.

There was a crash at an intersection in Mount Maunganui and another off Maleme Street as well.

'People need to drive to the conditions,” adds Phil. 'Remember that even when the rain stops, the road is still wet.

'You have to watch your following distances and your braking before corners - you don't want to be braking in a corner.”

Phil warns that crashes resulting from speed or any other driving offence could likely, at the very least, face a charge of careless driving and that will go through the court process.

'Which means there will be a fine decided by the courts and there can also be a disqualification,” he says.

'The biggest frustration I have is that drivers are just not paying attention to what they're doing when they're driving.”

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24 comments

Tell

Posted on 14-04-2015 11:51 | By Capt_Kaveman

Me about it, there were more idiots in easter than ever ive seen before, police need to look at just plain driver behavior and not just the radar


consentrate

Posted on 14-04-2015 14:06 | By whatsinaname

absolutely nothing wrong with Omanawa road. Use that road regularly and notice that speed and cutting of corners is becoming a prob. 3 accidents in the last week or so. come on people take more care.next thing people will be saying its the roads fault.


Too many speeders

Posted on 14-04-2015 14:21 | By Watch

I travel quite a bit from the Mount to Rotorua. I always stick to the speed limit, but I seem to be in a minority. I always have cars passing me and impatient drivers sitting on my tail. Anyone would think I have set the speed limits. It just seems to be that the speed limits are there for no reason at all.


Dumb Policing frustrates drivers

Posted on 14-04-2015 14:35 | By mutley

Forget the anal obsession with 4km/h speed tolerances and take the worst 10% of the drivers and the worst 10% of the vehicles off the road and then there will be some useful reductions in the road death toll. There was much crowing by Police over the low Easter toll and carnage ever since - accidents are randomly timed so statistics vary.


dumbed down drivers

Posted on 14-04-2015 15:37 | By brianwbrown

The main problem I find is that most drivers have been so dumbed down regarding speed that in order to make sure that they don't receive a ticket of any description they tend to go well under the allowable limit which frustrates a lot of drivers.Now the bulk of drivers are going around on auto pilot forever glancing at the speedometer instead of looking where they are going and what is happening around them.


Speeders

Posted on 14-04-2015 15:58 | By Kiwis

To TOO MANY SPEEDERS above. You may think you are doing the speed limit, but if you are driving a newer vehicle, there is a good chance you are actually doing up to 10kms below the limit. Newer vehicles speedo's seem to be under calibrated. Mum had the same issue with impatient drivers behind her, and we have tested her last 2 vehicles, each were 6-8kms below the 100km that the speedo was recording. That said, there is no excuse for people to tail gate - but it may explain it. And yes, the police need to look at driver behaviour, not just the radar! But we do seem to have more idiots on the roads these days.


AvR

Posted on 14-04-2015 16:08 | By Anton

Correcting in bends is a really good thing to loose control.most speedos are about 5 to 10 % out so if you think you are doing 100 k/ h. You are maybe doing just over 90 what can be fur stating for some one else.


Presence

Posted on 14-04-2015 18:28 | By NBee

I am not putting the police down in any way as I think they do a great job, but there is pretty much a zero police presence on the road these days. I really have to think twice before travelling because there are just so many idiots out there, and *555 is just not convenient most of the time.


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Posted on 14-04-2015 19:30 | By whatsinaname

the speed limit 100 km but drive to the conditions. slow down.


Don't get frustrated

Posted on 14-04-2015 23:20 | By tibs

Get out there and do some policing! I too travel at the speed limit but I double check it with my GPS and I find a heck of a lot of drivers meandering along 85km/h gusting to 90, until you get to a passing lane and then all of a sudden, they're off and racing, only to slow down under the limit when the passing lane ends.


NBee

Posted on 15-04-2015 03:38 | By Kenworthlogger

What planet are you living on?? I see the police everywhere on the road. one has to open their eyes and look. Lots of unmarked police too so maybe you not seeing half of them!! And they do a good job!


Avoidable

Posted on 15-04-2015 06:27 | By Conzar

99% of crashes are avoidable because 99% are caused by human error. If you want to prevent crashes, automate. Meaning, remove humans from the driver seat. The world will be a better place and police will be less frustrated.


Kenworthlogger

Posted on 15-04-2015 14:03 | By NBee

Thanks for the feedback, but I live in Tauranga and I personally haven't seen a Police presence here. I do believe we are allowed to have an opinion without the needless put downs. And you will see that I did say the police do a great job and I have great respect for them. What we have here is perhaps a resource problem.


NBee

Posted on 15-04-2015 18:07 | By Kenworthlogger

Yes you are entitled to your opinion and sorry my remark was not meant as a put down. Please accept my appology. The more time you spend on the road the more you see. I just thought it was incredulous that you did not see police on the road. I notiice them everywhere as my license depends on me not making mistakes so keep a keen eye out for them. Other trucks also tell you on the cb whenever a "highway" is lurking.. But i do agree with you they do a good job.


It's the drivers!

Posted on 15-04-2015 22:13 | By monty1212

The sad fact here is that 99% of all these accidents are down to bad driving. Having driven in many Countries throughout the world I can honestly say that Kiwi drivers are by far the worst I have ever come across and I am amazed that some of them have ever passed any form of driving test.


I agree Monty1212

Posted on 16-04-2015 17:45 | By Kenworthlogger

Yes i totally agree with you. NZ drivers are the worst in the world. I too have driven in quite a few other countries and yes kiwis are the worst. I had a motorbike overtake my logging truck today up the passenger side on the hard shoulder. Driver error? No stupidity more like. Make the driviing tests harder. Clearly they are too easy.


Repeat driving tests?

Posted on 20-04-2015 17:44 | By Wingnut

I know I'll get lots of flack for this but maybe peoples driving would improve if they had to resit their driving test every 10 years or so, or perhaps make defensive driving courses a compulsory part of the test. I think the Police do a good job but are under-resourced.


Hey Wingnut

Posted on 21-04-2015 18:55 | By Kenworthlogger

How about they make people that loose their license or get suspended or disqualified or similar make them re sit a practical driving test to regain their license. What do you think about that?


Kenworthlogger and Wingnut

Posted on 22-04-2015 16:28 | By YOGI BEAR

A lot of merit in silly accidents and especially excess speed type ones that the driver go and do a defensive driving course to learn how to drive. Once a pass is obtained then they cn go back on the road again. Often people very much misread the conditions, shall we say "force" driving or aggressive driving, expecting others to do whatever rather than careful out there. A second offence should mean returning to a Morrie 1000 (no modifications and a learner license i.e. start again


Bad driving

Posted on 23-04-2015 18:21 | By Kenworthlogger

Have a look at the artical Crash causes power outage. There is a classic example of someone who should be made to do a defensive driving course so they dont end up dead.


The problem

Posted on 25-04-2015 09:25 | By Devils-advocate

is not an easy fix, nor will it be solved by "dumbing down" the drivers and trying to cater to the lowest common denominator. Instead, we need to be raising the bar, ensuring people are capable of driving unsupervised before they're granted a license. Make it a requirement to have a certain amount of hours with a qualified driving instructor, rather than learning all the bad habits off Mum and Dad who are terrible drivers too - even if it's partially subsidised, I'd rather my taxes go towards that than all the "1 km over is deadly" advertising campaigns. Focus on the real causes of crashes, and if a driver is convited, take their license off them and make them do it again! It won't happening immediately, but in time, we could breed a better generation of drivers and the roads would then be a safer place.


I agree Kenworthlogger, Yogi Bear , Devils advocate

Posted on 27-04-2015 14:46 | By Wingnut

I believe sometimes offenders are required by the courts to do a Defensive Driving Course before regaining their license. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think you're right on the money with your suggestion Devils Advocate about compulsory lessons with qualified driving instructors. I'm sick to death of seeing lazy inconsiderate drivers on the road who think the rules don't apply to them.


Yep i agree too Wingnut, Yogi and Devils Advocate

Posted on 29-04-2015 08:51 | By Kenworthlogger

Yes it is too easy to get a license and to get it back when you loose it is too easy aswel. Maybe we should have a graded license system for cars like we do for Trucks from class 2 up to class 5. In Australia you start off on your speed restricted L plates then you get your speed restricted P plates for i think its a year then you get your Green P plates which im sure is speed restricted too. Please someone correct me if i have this incorrect. But what it does is you can see via the P plates how much experience that driver has uo till they get their full license. So if its a P driving slower you can cut them a bit of slack cause they are under a speed restriction. (They are going slow for a reason) .


Sunlive response ?

Posted on 12-05-2015 08:47 | By Feruno

I believe a newspaper has a responsibility to the public that supports it . I presume you have read these and other comments sections regarding driving in NZ . Something HAS to be DONE . SLive "welcomes" comments , now be our hero and promote this issue , starting with comments from people know what they are talking about ( people who have driven in many other countries ), and not some councilor who has never been out of Tauranga . Speed does not kill . Bad driving does , and very seldom, accidents happen . Police should monitor drivers who travel at 60kph in 100K zones , then speed up to 120K when a passing lane is reached , then back to 60K , for example . You want more ? I have plenty .


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