Discussions to place the 75-metre waka famously dubbed the ‘Tupperwaka' during the 2011 Rugby World Cup on Tauranga's Waterfront are underway.
A study determining the feasibility of bringing the $2 million Waka Maori pavilion to the city is being undertaken before a proposal is put to the Tauranga City Council, Mayor Stuart Crosby confirmed today.
The Waka Maori, pictured at Auckland's Viaduct Harbour, could be coming to Tauranga. Photo: Fairfax.
The waka-shaped pavilion, first constructed for the Rugby World Cup, is believed to still be in San Francisco where it featured for the 2013 America's Cup campaign.
Stuart says the intention is to have the pavilion assembled on The Strand Reclamation Area on Tauranga's Waterfront before the end of the year.
He is expecting the proposal to be put to council before the end of the month.
'We are not even sure at this stage if it's a goer,” says Stuart. 'The feasibility and business case will be critical for that. There's a whole independent team doing that, generally outside of council.”
He says if the proposal goes ahead it would be good to have the pavilion on site in time for this year's cruise ship season.
SunLive understands it could remain there for two-five years.
'There are still hurdles like financing, resource consent, and things like that. It's early days yet but it will be great, I think.”
The idea to put the Waka Maori on the waterfront came from discussions about where to put the Pukehinahina Battle of Gate Pa exhibition, after its season at the Greerton Village Hall, he says.
Funding of the waka is yet to be discussed, but SunLive understands TCC will not be paying for it.
Project initiator Sally Cooke says the Waka Maori on the Tauranga Waterfront proposal is a concept to bring the Waka Maori to Tauranga to be established as a cultural, technology and innovation showcase centre for the Bay.
'It is an ambitious project yet one, we believe, that has the potential to provide the city with a fantastic multi-purpose venue for events, shows, activities, meetings and cultural offerings.
'At the same time the concept includes the development of a technology and innovation showcase centre within the Waka Maori, alongside a cultural display which initially is planned to include the Gate Pa 150th Commemorative Exhibition.”
The pavilion is 75 metres long and has 5.2 metre internal headroom. After the Rugby World Cup it was donated to Ngati Whatua o Orakei, who had commissioned it and contributed $100,000 of the $2m cost.
It was dubbed the ‘Tupperwaka' by critics because of its plastic look and its cost to the taxpayer. The gleaming white hull hosted 400,000 visitors to the Viaduct Harbour during 11 days of the RWC.
The structure, which is a tension membrane over a framework of laminated pine, won an international fabrics award. The structure gives 5.6m headroom and bears a taurapa or stern post 16.6m high.
77 comments
No thanks.
Posted on 02-09-2014 13:22 | By Captain Sensible
Noooooooooooooooooooooo! Newsflash for TCC; We are in big debt. We do not need a plastic canoe. Do not spend hard earned rate payer money on a waste of space.
Overit
Posted on 02-09-2014 13:26 | By overit
Yuk what an eye sore and over priced. Good on you TCC for another dumb idea.
Mr Mayor
Posted on 02-09-2014 13:31 | By nerak
if you think it will be great, I think you should fund it yourself.
A joke
Posted on 02-09-2014 13:56 | By rodgero52
You have got to be kidding, thats the last thing we as rate payers or visitors want to see. Sitting a restaurant having a coffee or a meal and looking at that great monstrosity instead of our great harbour views. What a waste of money.
Goodbye
Posted on 02-09-2014 13:59 | By sojourner
Farewell wonderful view and wide open space. With that thing there all people enjoying the lovely pub and restaurant terraces will have nothing but a wall to look at. Put it somewhere else!
lump of plastic
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:07 | By Ross01
why don't the Ngati Whatua o Orakei want it any more? Is it because it spoils their view of the water? Because it sure as hell will spoil the view of our harbour if it is plonked on the Strand Reclamation. Furthermore cruise ship passengers have little to do with Tauranga. Most of them climb aboard prebooked buses at the port and hightail over to Rotorua for the day
Rastus
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:10 | By rastus
I guess they have to find a place somewhere to store it - Oh I know what a good idea if we could get the ratepayers of Tauranga to fund it and look after it until we ever need it again- it's like being on a merry go round folks!
wwwhaat!!!
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:10 | By Me again
Maybe we could borrow it to take tourist to the Astrolabe Nerak, for a small fee of course, oh a KOHA.
WHAT???
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:30 | By penguin
Couldn't think of any more of an eyesore than this monstrosity!!! It will be totally out of place and character with the Strand. Come on council - use some common sense. But if people are so stupid as to insist on messing up the environment, why not park a replica of a container ship or cruise liner there instead? It would be more in keeping with what Tauranga and the port's life blood is all about.
Financing a constraint?
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:31 | By jed
Since when did our council find financing a constraint? After all, other people (ratepayers) pay.
Funding
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:48 | By roseh
Certainly hope this is not going to be another rate payers funded thing.As a pensioner on my own it's hard enough,with out more added on
Too Ugly
Posted on 02-09-2014 15:01 | By Tauranga Ratepayer
Why would you want to have something that is so big.and ugly on The Strand. We need more of what we have got now. Get rid of the cars and turn the rest of the area into a park. Something we can all enjoy.
Mayor
Posted on 02-09-2014 15:10 | By DAD
It would seem the current Mayor is hell bent on having his name on something before he gets the shove, If he really wants this in Tauranga let him Pay , personally I don't think we need such a large thing to upkeep ,our little Hairy Mcleary Dogs would never be noticed if this was put on our Waterfront!
Ratepayer Money
Posted on 02-09-2014 15:15 | By The Caveman
So the Ratepayers will get STUNG again. Its about time the Council realised that some 40% of the ratepayers are on fixed incomes. Time the Council spent money of the BASICS and left the "commercial" stuff to the commercial world - if they are such great ideas, then the commercial world can take the risk (and make the money). Oh, and stick it on private land, NOT public land rent free.
Kestrel version 2
Posted on 02-09-2014 15:16 | By Bronzewing
When are the clever people running this town going to stop collecting Auckland cast offs? It was ugly in Auckland and will be even more ugly here. Just another way to waste ratepayers money.
The Strand NO NO NO
Posted on 02-09-2014 15:30 | By Murray.Guy
The Strand, NO. If the proposal has any merit and I note it is glaringly short on any detail, there is potential for Dive Crescent to replace the derelict storage buildings opposite the Cargo Shed, perhaps Coronation Park to add value to a Cruise Ship experience. But keep it off the Strand! I want to look at water, not structures!
Tauranga needs this
Posted on 02-09-2014 15:34 | By tish
like it needs another big noting mayor wasting ratepayer dollars. Oh wait...
Agree ...
Posted on 02-09-2014 15:48 | By chancer
... with all the above. There will undoubtedly be a public outcry if they even attempt to put it on The Strand reclamation - Dive Crescent is a far better option. It obviously doesn't float so we could try iton the harbour - Oh Dear, it sank - just like this whole ridiculous idea should !!
Big Ugly Lump!!
Posted on 02-09-2014 15:48 | By Mary Faith
Better not spend a cent of my rates on this monstrosity!! The Mayor wants it - the Maori want it (on top of the millions already promised to move their Waka further down town) let them pay for it and stick the thing at Bay Park - out of sight. Ratepayers continually pay out for the so called "beautifying of the Strand" - this would be the ultimate insult!!
waka??
Posted on 02-09-2014 16:22 | By Me again
Here's and idea, use it to take tourist and divers out to the Astrolabe for a small fee or koha. That's what we can do nerak
Are you kidding?
Posted on 02-09-2014 16:38 | By Spacenight
What a waste of space! Put some picnic tables or some more useful features that people can enjoy. A giant chunk of plastic, seriously?
HIDEOUS
Posted on 02-09-2014 16:56 | By s83cruiser
HIDEOUS!!!......Why are people hell bent on doing stupid stuff on the water front. Last stupid idea I remember was a museum out over the water.... What's this stupidity ??? next best [worst] thing??
@leubert
Posted on 02-09-2014 17:00 | By nerak
actually, I think it should be plonked in the mayor's backyard, and he can charge a fee to fund his old age, which is more than the rest of us will see, we just see more of our $ going on his glory.
Pete Dolden
Posted on 02-09-2014 17:10 | By mouldy
We've already paid for this montrosity once through taxes. It is hideous, bears no ressemblance to a waka.Why anybody would like to see this on the waterfront completely escapes me. Burn it so it doesn't keep coming back to haunt us
out of touch
Posted on 02-09-2014 17:46 | By Captain Sensible
TCC's obsession with all things maori and their expectation that rate payers will pay for it. What is wrong with these out-of-touch money wasters? And my answer would be the same if it was some plastic european dinghy as well.
Do the Maths!
Posted on 02-09-2014 17:51 | By Mary Faith
Cost $2,000,000. Housing the thing for 2 years = nearly $20,000 per week (5yrs + nearly $7,700 per week. Add transport/labour costs to disassemble and relocate - plus running and maintenance costs while here. Maori want to house their Gate Pa Exhibition there. Yeah right! Like they can recoup that sort of money from that! I guess as long as they are not paying for it then they don't care! Luckily Stuart has only one vote on council as it is inconceivable that any other councillor would be foolhardy enough to vote for such a hair-brained scheme! After 2-5 years, what then? We'd be stuck with the great white ugly lump - and the cost, just another council folly to add the the ever lengthening list of stupidities they commit!
Space for display
Posted on 02-09-2014 18:03 | By graham.macgregor
Comments are missing the small point that has been raised - a place to display the Pukehinahina Gate Pa Exhibition. We don't have a museum and not enough space in the art gallery (or interest). This is a major part of Tauranga history that needs to be on display. Ugly, maybe. Uncoventional, yes. But let's try it (as Mayor Stuart says, without cost to TCC)
Reaaly could anyone think this would be a good thing?
Posted on 02-09-2014 18:19 | By Raewyn
The Beauty of the Water Front is seeing the Water! Who in their right mind would want to put a big hunk of plastic or what ever in front on the view? What about the cost of even thinking of putting it there?
Leave it.
Posted on 02-09-2014 19:02 | By Accountable
For the CBD to survive another year it needs to retain all the car parking available to it now and it also needs the parking reinstated at the southern end of the Waterfront otherwise the ratepayers will be asked to build another car parking building. The cost of that will kill off the CBD in very quick time. It must also be noted this ridiculous idea comes from the owner of Tuskany Mainstreet the people who should know better but have just proved they don't.The CBD will continue to die with ideas like this from people have no respect for the businesses in the CBD.
You should Know this!
Posted on 02-09-2014 19:16 | By Mary Faith
Follow this link:http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/5768213/Rugby-World-Cup-Tupperwaka-unveiled. Quote "In July the Government was accused of cronyism for stumping up $1.8 million for the Rugby World Cup "Tupperwaka" owned by the largest hapu in Maori Affairs Minister Pita Sharples' electorate. The hapu involved - Ngati Whatua o Orakei - contributed $100,000 to the project but will retain ownership after the World Cup". So, ratepayers originally paid all but $100,000 for this thing. Then the government gave it to that tribe! S0, I assume they still own it?? The $2 million figure they are proposing our council pay - is this actually only for a short term lease? Will Tauranga own it - or does the tribe retain possession? So much goes on behind closed doors! We must not let this folly slip through the net! I trust Sun Live will publish this information.
FORGET IT TCC
Posted on 02-09-2014 20:27 | By carpedeum
Are you all totally MAD- let Ngati Whatue o Orakei sort it- they own it- they fund it - they house it- up in Auckland an their own land !!!!.
Waka What
Posted on 02-09-2014 21:01 | By sangrae
Is this going to be Stuarts swansong I think not come on all Tauranga residents we do not want this monstrity here where is Kelvin ? Please block this stupid idea.
yes please
Posted on 02-09-2014 22:14 | By audrey may
this would be great to have here in the bay we dont have anything like that here be perfect to display battle of gate pa that was in greerton hall
Simple then
Posted on 02-09-2014 22:30 | By nerak
it should rest at Orakei, a quick google shows a nice bit of mud to dump it in somewhere along Tamaki Drive, or maybe the Savage Memorial Park. If Stuart really needs to see it he can go for a drive. That is, unless he's got a very deep personal pocket.
Woo Hoo!
Posted on 03-09-2014 06:49 | By Fonzie
We will be able to gather and gaze upon the tupperwaka with our magic marker mokos and mutton bone pendants and be all cultural
400,000 over 11 days,
Posted on 03-09-2014 08:10 | By robin bell
sounds like a tourist attraction to me.Can't have it though,it has a Maori connection.How sad. Robin Bell.
rubbish
Posted on 03-09-2014 08:11 | By peecee09
We do not want this piece of plastic rubbish blocking our view of the harbour.
Tauranga Art Policy
Posted on 03-09-2014 09:13 | By MamaCass
This is PRECISELY why Tauranga needs a comprehensive arts policy and why we need it NOW!!! Ask the questions, get informed and let the Council know your feelings. Get onto Facebook and support the people lobbying for this...facebook.com/taurangapublicart
OMG - really?
Posted on 03-09-2014 10:48 | By fox007
But what do the people of Tauranga know?, our opinion seems to mean nothing...I'm missing the glory that will be gained by putting this ugly thing here? Wonder how long it will take for grafitti to strike? Maybe we should have a rally against it?
Something would be good, but not this monstrosity
Posted on 03-09-2014 10:52 | By Annalist
A great lively waterfront might just attract the activity that would get this city going. But I don't think this proposal is it. Ratepayers also have to protected from any scheme that could see them somehow paying or subsidising any costs. We have enough of that already.
Yes please,
Posted on 03-09-2014 11:14 | By robin bell
Right now Rotorua with its numerous cultural attractions get all the tourist dollars.Tauranga on the other hand,get all the whingers.People like fonzie,who see yet another opportunity to insult.Go for it Mr Mayor,Tauranga is gasping for novelty. Robin Bell.
@Robin Bell
Posted on 03-09-2014 11:24 | By Sambo Returns
Fair comment from you "tinker" and I would expect no less, but funny though that yours is the only really racist comment amongst all the postings here, and who would want a heap of ugly plastic plonked on the Strand, I would rather have a sculpture made out of plastic milk containers, how about cleaning up the whare holding the Waka in place now, and actually making a few repairs so that it is actually representative of Maori, rather than looking like a broken down canoe!!!!.
Art!
Posted on 03-09-2014 11:26 | By DAD
What a Joke! If put on the strand it would block the most picturesque nature view of our Lovely Landscape and Water across the Harbour.
Cookie Jar
Posted on 03-09-2014 12:22 | By Raewyn
When will the Mayor come to realise that he cant just go out a get what he wants , the Councilors all try to budget and he has no respect for the cost of things plus ongoing costs, Tauranga has natural beauty not needing some big white elephant!
Hey sammy,
Posted on 03-09-2014 12:37 | By robin bell
you obviously havn't read 'all' the comments. Not surprising,one eye and all that. If you remember sammy,you lot were up in arms recently,at the proposition of the real thing.If you and your mates have your way Tauranga will remain,a second class tourist venue,and you whinge about having no money. Is it any wonder? Robin 'tinker' Bell.
Hey Mamacass
Posted on 03-09-2014 13:57 | By How about this view!
You want an art gallery, museum or fish tank in Tauranga, then you and your supporters raise the funds and split the profits. I'm sure that you'll be able to retire in luxury. As for this glorified tent, why not test it in Rotorua, by the lake, as that's really where the tourists want to visit. We only get them by default, as the nearest port with facilities to handle cruise ships.
.
Posted on 03-09-2014 14:30 | By maccachic
Do not force more costs onto struggling ratepayers, the money is better spend on their own familys. those what want it fund it.
plastic boat
Posted on 03-09-2014 15:28 | By Glen Clova
No Way not here in Tauranga sed it to the plasic recyclers.
Will whingers get their way,
Posted on 03-09-2014 15:48 | By robin bell
or positive thinking win the day.That is the question.This showcase 'could' be the catalyst to greater things. with the Gate Pa exhibition,real carving in progress,other art displays.Close proximity to bars and eateries.Right now nothing to promote nothing to visit. The cruise ship tourists 'could' be bused over the bridge,visit the attractions,snack or drinks,best fish and chips in the 'world',back on the bus Rotorua via Pyes Pa. Nah!! it will never happen. Or will it? Robin Bell.
NO!!!
Posted on 03-09-2014 18:04 | By K72
It's an eyesore and no better than putting a row of shipping containers there. As someone who enjoys the strand on a regular basis, (evenings with friends, weekends with family) it's the views & space that make the Strand unique. We often go and just sit on the grass, meet up with other families - and picnic/catch up whilst the kids play. It's an inclusive place, enjoy it without spending a dollar - or call for ice creams/coffee on the way back to the car. Whilst we may not be the much coveted Cruise tourists - dozens of families spending $20 a week long term, has got to be at least as good as a tourist who'll pay entry once in a lifetime then leave us with that monstrosity in place of the view. As ratepayers, we've already paid once for the space so listen to what we want.
Hey Robby!
Posted on 03-09-2014 18:19 | By nerak
Think you've missed something, tourists don't get ‘bused' over the bridge now, your dreaming to think the tourist co's will want to take the flak from their customers to show them a hideous lump of plastic. Tourists very likely already been to Viaduct Harbour in Auckland. Your ‘showcase' 'could” be the catalyst to greater things?? A Tui billboard coming up. Going to take much more than this monstrosity to draw the crowds, unless they want to ogle an eyesore. Nothing about whinging, just believe Tauranga does not need this to revive it. Maybe you and Stuart should buy a bit of dirt somewhere out back and we'll all watch to see how it goes, out of your pockets, not ours. The Strand area is possibly shaping up well, maybe we need to give it time seeing much of the look is quite new. Let us not spoil it.
Hey Robin..!!
Posted on 03-09-2014 20:04 | By groutby
I reckon if the cruise ships had the "need" for a two day stop it could be used well between the "Cultural" heart of Aotearoa New Zealand (in Rotorua) and then some the second day at the country's best beach in the World..right here!..I assume they have their timetable and this isn't likely to be possible anytime soon.Not sure for me (whoever pays) whether or not a plastic Waka is right for us here though, if you reckon the Gate Pa Exhibition is a go for tourists (personally I see a lot of "promotional" work needed here to be fair!)could we utilise the more realistic Waka downtown now on this site?..maybe some "interactive" electronic stuff to get 'em keen too?..cultural stuff and historical settlement of the Tauranga area perhaps?. But,in the picture in the story here, that ISN'T YOU lying in protest to the left is it??.. :)
What are u thinking
Posted on 03-09-2014 20:42 | By Mike Lehan
Mr mayor.....seriously I don't think the people of Tauranga want an eyesore like that polluting the waterfront, it would keep me away...and the tourists would have a laugh too. Consider the cost, residents of Tauranga, to disassemble and reassemble, transport and infrastructure needed for this "monument" would run into the high 100's of thousands. Perhaps, mr mayor, before you consider these pet projects of yours you should look at the costs 1st. The last thing Tauranga needs is another white elephant.
Go Stu' in it U TCC dipsticks
Posted on 03-09-2014 21:41 | By ROCCO
Anything with a bit of maori about it and Ding Dong Bell is in like a robbers dog never mind the obscene cost or how insane the stupid project might be - talk about tunneled vision. See the teflon mare is sticking his pet oar in too.Someone change the medication please. L.O.L.
A Study being done ..
Posted on 03-09-2014 21:58 | By Murray.Guy
A study determining the feasibility of bringing the $2 million Waka Maori pavilion to the city is being undertaken before a proposal is put to the Tauranga City Council, Mayor Stuart Crosby confirmed today ... Seriously Mr Mayor, and I suspect former big spending Councillors Molloy and Baldock and mates, please don't waste our rates, TCC staff time. Some things most folk can identify early in the piece as a 'no go zone' - this is one of them! The $8 million Cozzie con at the Mount sits waiting for the Gate Pa display and museum memorabilia and the cruise ship tourists. Put your egos aside, leave our wallets alone and start applying some common sense! PS: You could also talk to The Cargo Shed about displaying the Gate Pa Battle displays, and is this in place of a new iconic museum, or do you want both?
Mr Mayor
Posted on 04-09-2014 10:11 | By Oldy
Yeh great idea so long as you fund it and it is parked at Mayor Island.
Wingers and moaners
Posted on 05-09-2014 18:09 | By YOGI BEAR
yes Robin they do a lot, to much and to often, how does it make you feel to be an apathiedist?
Does Murray Guy remember Baypark millions?
Posted on 06-09-2014 15:48 | By Councillorwatch
When Cr Guy was on Council, ratepayers gave a $5 million "cash injection" to Baypark? Did the former councillor Guy vote for that? I'm against Council wasting money on this tupperwaka, but I was also against all the money poured into Baypark. So before Murray mentions big spending councillors and egos I'd like to know his council voting record on Baypark, and also the purchase of the Speedway and catering businesses???
Waka da point of this?
Posted on 07-09-2014 09:51 | By YOGI BEAR
The last story ex TCC was to have "clear spaces on the waterfront, this looks like a huge thing at some 75m long, 16.5m high and about 6m wide. That is like a five story building being built on the edge of the waterfront? $2m for this, you have to be kidding, where is the common sense here? What are they going to then use it for? Some kind of display or whatever, if so what is that going to cost? A lot ... Folks just add a few million more to your rates bills for this little fling.
Councillorwatch
Posted on 07-09-2014 09:55 | By YOGI BEAR
Don't forget, Mount Greens, ASB Arena as well that Murray was in on. tens of Millions for some of these. After done then there are many millions a year added to rates.
myview
Posted on 07-09-2014 16:47 | By myview
Seriously this is the last thing we want on the beautiful Strand waterfront. Get real council.
Forget it
Posted on 07-09-2014 16:54 | By myview
Seriously we don't want this eyesore on the beautiful Strand waterfront.Forget it council leave it at San Fran.
Foreshore open spaces
Posted on 09-09-2014 07:29 | By YOGI BEAR
I thought the plan was to have a bit of open space there, less obstructions, no monstrous and massive structures? Did I miss something ... but this thing is huge.
unnecassary expense
Posted on 11-09-2014 10:34 | By rosscoo
Why create more cost to rate payer? Council wanted to reduce debt a couple of months back now they want to spend money like it grows on trees. spend it where it is needed not on some eyesore.
Madness personafied!
Posted on 12-09-2014 14:28 | By YOGI BEAR
These involved have shown their true colours, all that remains is to reveal who. Then let them explain and so dig the self made hole a lot deeper.
Tupperwaka
Posted on 14-09-2014 13:35 | By paddyaok@xtra.co.nz
No no no!! lets not block the wonderful harbor with a 3 storied plastic boat!!
Wan't there...
Posted on 15-09-2014 08:21 | By penguin
...once a proposal to have a structure on/floating off the Strand complete with helipad etc? And wasn't that turned down for its inappropriateness? Do I detect memory loss by council once again?
Pengiun
Posted on 16-09-2014 01:01 | By YOGI BEAR
All kinds of things have been floating around the Strand waterfront, some have floated for a while and then drifted off somewhere else. Some are just wishful thinking.
Floating disasters
Posted on 18-09-2014 00:42 | By YOGI BEAR
One good example was the Kestral, I believe it was burnt out/sank or something a while ago, now even that was a monster blot on the waterfront, but nothing like the Tupper-waka scam being hatched here.
Waka happening here?
Posted on 18-09-2014 00:44 | By YOGI BEAR
Actually it belongs to IWI, so why aren't IWI looking to do something with it? Like pay for it to all happen, if they are serious about it then what about putting it at the Papamoa Beach Camp, that land is owned by Council anyway. Those on site an pay for it, provide the upkeep and so on, a much better plan.
Atop COuncil
Posted on 18-09-2014 00:46 | By YOGI BEAR
Lets place it on top of Council Chambers, There can be an emergency ladder for all the (council) officias to climb up and take a nice warm comfy seat inside when the next Tsunami arrives.
To YOGI BEAR
Posted on 19-09-2014 08:44 | By penguin
I believe it was the Toroa that sank at a wharf in a storm. The Kestrel was, at least, a REAL vessel not an ugly, giant heap of plastic. And thousands of people, including myself and many Taurangians, have fond memories of crossing the Waitemata Harbour on her. Long may she live! http://www.thekestrel.org.nz/downloads/dlf/12-04-24_nsta.pdf http://www.thekestrel.org.nz
Please, No!
Posted on 19-09-2014 09:16 | By Raewyn
Not on the Strand! If it is placed on Council land I hope Council will charge a fee for the use of the space like they do to mobile businesses and we all pay rates on the land we own!
I have A Compromise to Offer
Posted on 19-09-2014 12:34 | By carpedeum
How about the Plastic Waka be sited- at the local tribes expense (from their Treaty settlement money) ON THE RESERVE where the Battle of Gate Pa took place and then it could house the Gate Pa Exhibition?? We dont need ANY obstructions to the Harbour Views please- let alone this one!!
carpedeum
Posted on 21-09-2014 15:05 | By YOGI BEAR
A great idea, but sadly the muffin brains behind this are already being paid by Council so the damage to ratepayers pockets is already well under way.
@ Pengiun
Posted on 24-09-2014 15:54 | By YOGI BEAR
Agreed on that, however the 'glass box' and the Kestral add up to an huge eye sore anyway. it is just the Tupperware version now contemplated is massive in comparison and a lot more obstructive of the waterfront, carparking and so on.
Depth of feelings
Posted on 29-09-2014 14:19 | By YOGI BEAR
No only is this a crazy idea that should not even have reach the cranial cavity of any muffin brain at TCC or any of it overfunded appendages, the feelings also appear to be a level of racial issue about it, the level of feelings of late seem to be spilling over into anything related. Somewhat similar to the ISIS thing/Osama Bin Laden/Taliban thing, same type of problem really.
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