Merivale crossing safety concerns

Mounting road safety concerns at one Merivale crossing are prompting the community to step up and help formulate a more visible and safer short-term solution.

According to residents, the high railing on the Fraser St pedestrian crossing outside the Merivale shops is creating a visibility issue for drivers using the road.

Merivale Liquor Centre manager Jaspreet Singh on the Fraser St pedestrian crossing. Photo: Tracy Hardy.

Concerns have been raised after a man was hit by a car while using the crossing this month.

Tauranga City Council's long-term vision is to control the intersection by traffic lights.

Merivale Community Centre general manager Rachel Palmer says a residents' meeting with councillor Bill Grainger and transportation manager Martin Parkes this week has been beneficial in outlining concerns and possible solutions.

'A lot of the concerns are the traffic is still speeding coming through.

'There is also concern for the children coming out of school and to school. The railing is too high for the people to see the children.”

Merivale Liquor Centre manager Jaspreet Singh says the main concern isn't the crossing itself, but the young children using it.

'There is nothing wrong with the crossing. It's only the young kids; they just cross the road without looking for traffic.”

Jaspreet thinks a bigger push around safely crossing roads is needed alongside any council roading remedies.

'It's going to be easier if council put a camera around that area.”

TCC communications manager Frank Begley says the meeting with residents looked at ways to improve visibility at the pedestrian crossing. This could include adjusting the height of the safety fencing.

'Any changes made are likely to be short-term ones, as the long term plan is the intersection will become controlled by traffic lights; something that's been under consideration for some time,” says Frank.

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17 comments

What ever happened to slowing down and looking......

Posted on 25-08-2014 12:24 | By Angel74

Yes it isn't easy to see if someone is wanting to cross and knowing this makes me slow right down and look not just drive past and pray someone wont come out in front of me........


Change the Road Law

Posted on 25-08-2014 12:32 | By The Caveman

The problem is that pedestrians now have the right to walk onto pedestrian crossings with NO regard for traffic and without checking traffic can stop before hitting them). Kids have learnt this from their parents/teachers (vehicles must stop - without consideration of 'can the driver see me & can/will the vehicle stop”. The fact that the kids are 'hidden” behind the high 'safety fence” when viewed at an angle by approaching drivers, does not help. It's time the Road Law went back to the requirement of pedestrians being required to STOP, look both ways, wait for close vehicles pass, then cross the road. Its one thing for pedestrians to have the right force vehicles to stop in a short distance before a crossing, but remember pedestrians are made of squishy stuff, vehicles are made of metal and the road is hard as well !!


Agreed

Posted on 25-08-2014 12:54 | By penguin

One other problem is that cars angle parked on the Kesteeven side of the crossing, obscure drivers' vision on the approach to the crossing. The whole layout is very challenging with parking, a crossing, islands, multiple roundabouts and queues waiting to access the Gull station.On top of that is the habit of many pedestrians of all ages to ignore approaching vehicles or not even use the crossing itself. For drivers, multi-tasking with an overload of things to watch for and split-second decisions to make, challenging is probably an understatement! Having said all that, I don't know why a roundabout was not constructed at the intersection of Courtney Road/Landview Road and Fraser Street - another challenging place!


Alert

Posted on 25-08-2014 13:02 | By DAD

Well said Caveman. people to often step out in front of vehicles thet dont have the space to stop!


Yes

Posted on 25-08-2014 13:05 | By Capt_Kaveman

again a council design flaw, it is the wrong kind of fence and while kids run down the footpath and then run straight across this will never go away, as it is when i see anyone near this crossing id be lucky to be doing 20kph past it


The Caveman nailed it!!!!!

Posted on 25-08-2014 14:18 | By s83cruiser

The crossing in the middle of Greerton is equally as bad. I had a woman step out in front of my motorbike one day and I ended up with it on it's side and me sprawled over the road. The stupid bovine looked at me with such contempt like it was her right to walk out in front of me and it was fully my responsibility to stop. What ever happened to the common sense rule for pedestrian to give way to machines weighing many hundreds and sometimes thousands of kilo's. Who changed it so that motorist have to jump on the brakes because a pedestrian assumes the right of way regardless of common sense and steps out in front of a moving vehicle. The law of the land reverted to the right hand rule maybe this is one that needs to revert back as well.


SAY THANK YOU

Posted on 25-08-2014 14:40 | By commonsense

The only issue that I have with pedestrian crossings in Tauranga is the inability of pedestrians to acknowledge that you have stopped for them. I know that you have to stop, its the law, i get that but where have all the manners gone? Rarely do you get a nod of the head or a flick of the hand to say thanks.


Adults, kids

Posted on 25-08-2014 14:46 | By tish

run and ride onto the crossing regularly. People aren't speeding with the restrictions in place, the drivers are faced with a population there that has no respect for their own safety and regularly abuses a driver's ability to stop in time. Merivale needs to sort itself out for a change. Kids as young as some of these shouldn't be out on roads without an adult and especially not on bikes much bigger than they are, all cyclists should know the law about dismounting and walking a bike across a crossing and all users should already know never to run on a crossing. Oh and someone get these people a helmet, most of them aren't wearing one of those, either.


Its Merivale!!!!

Posted on 25-08-2014 15:24 | By Sambo Returns

go faster, seriously though, 2 x mini roundabouts are a joke to start with, do away with them and put controlled lights at a pedestrian crossing.


I agree with Caveman

Posted on 25-08-2014 16:18 | By tjs01

I drive through there daily and I have no issues seeing adults or children. The problem isn't the road its the law that state pedestrians have the right of way... fine walk out in front of a truck then see if I care. They need to use common sense when crossing the roads. My stepdaughter (12) went shopping with me by herself recently and went to step out, I told her if there is a car between the white diamonds painted on the road then it WILL NOT have time to stop. They still use the diamonds so when did they stop telling kids what they are there for??


Overit

Posted on 25-08-2014 18:32 | By overit

Tjs01 I am 56 and have learnt something today. Yes I have seen the white diamonds but never questioned what they were for.


Helpful?

Posted on 25-08-2014 21:30 | By penguin

The old rule regarding diamonds at crossings stated that a driver had to stop if a person was at the crossing when the driver was at or after the diamond. The pedestrian had to wait if a car was at or before the diamond. The new rule doesn't really deal with this except to say that a diamond ‘might' be painted on the road. The diamond is basically to alert the driver of a pending crossing. Try the NZTA link I have included. Good luck! http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-other-road-users/information-for-pedestrians.html


White Diamonds !

Posted on 25-08-2014 22:30 | By The Caveman

From my observations the white diamonds don't actually exist in most towns. However it is also my understanding that they were originally to inform very early motorist that there was a pedestrian crossing in front of them. However, in today's nose to tail traffic I would suggest that they are a total waste of paint - drivers in lines of traffic will not see them - too busy watching the traffic, and not the road suffice between their car and the one 20 meters in front.


Diamonds not forever?

Posted on 26-08-2014 08:44 | By penguin

The old rule regarding diamonds at crossings stated that a driver had to stop if a person was at the crossing when the driver was at or after the diamond. The pedestrian had to wait if a car was at or before the diamond. The new rule doesn't really deal with this except to say that a diamond ‘might' be painted on the road. The diamond is basically to alert the driver of a pending crossing. Try the NZTA link I have included. Good luck! http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-other-road-users/information-for-pedestrians.html


Overit

Posted on 26-08-2014 20:04 | By overit

Its the round orange signs that I watch for.(or orange lights).


Jagman

Posted on 27-08-2014 11:41 | By Roger

Why don't they put in a walkway tunnel? There's one under the Hairini roundabout and at Tatuanui school - under the main road. Would solve all the problems and save traffic lights!


Roger

Posted on 29-08-2014 05:34 | By GreertonBoy

That would cost too much money to put in a tunnel.... they would have to pay counsil fees, more council fees, environmental impact studies, population studies, expected useage studies, geographical studies, surveys, pay for designers to design the tunnel, architects to approve the designs, then get locals approval, pay more fees to the council... by then they probably couldn't afford the couple of hundred thousand bucks to pay for doing the actual work.... great idea, just too much cost.... then they would want to put a toll on it, and the toll gates would cost nine million each!


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