Debate raises racial tensions

Political tensions among Bay of Plenty candidates are flaring after heated discussions on raced-based politics at a meet-the-candidates event at Bay of Plenty Polytechnic.

BOP Conservative Party candidate Deborah Cunliffe was labelled 'Queen Victoria reincarnated” by a political competitor at the polytechnic's Windermere campus yesterday, where 18 political candidates went toe-to-toe on public issues.


Political candidates lined up to speak to students at yesterday's Bay of Plenty Polytechnic debate.

The debate, in front of about 50 students, comes one month out from the September 20 general election.

After a two minute speech from each candidate, audience questions prompted heated discussions on race-based policies, including one question asking how the negation of race-based law will increase the already wide gap in equality between Maori and other New Zealanders.

This election ACT and the Conservative Party are both pushing policies to rid Parliament of its Maori seats.

NZ First believes the future of the Maori seats should be put to a referendum, with party leader Winston Peters already ruling out working with any "race-based" party.

At the debate NZ First Tauranga candidate Clayton Mitchell says the party is standing for equality and creating a country where everyone gets along with one law for all.

'If we are going to single out one race because of their birth right or colour of their skin then why not single out another race of people and give them preferential treatment?”

Waiariki Labour candidate Rawiri Waititi says the only way Maori are going to move on is if the country acknowledges the 'injustices” of the past.

'When Maori aren't 50 per cent of the prison population, when Maori unemployment isn't skyrocketing and when Maori youth unemployment isn't at an all-time high of 25 per cent, that's when we can say there is inequality.”

Conservative Party candidate Deborah challenged Rawiri's sentiments, saying the fact that there is no current shift in any of his examples shows change is needed.

'The Conservative Party acknowledges, recognises and accepts the Maori opportunity.

'We have no problem of that but the Treaty of Waitangi gives us all equal right. The Maori conceded sovereignty to the Queen.”

Facing a chorus of heckles and outcry from audience members, Deborah replied saying many people don't accept the Maori version of the treaty.

Rawiri replied: 'It's you that don't accept the Maori version”.

'It's Queen Victoria reincarnated.”

ACT Party Tauranga candidate Stuart Pedersen says the party and its aspirations are misunderstood and the only difference in Maori inequality is in legal privilege.

'If it is a partnership [the Treaty of Waitangi] the best part is that all partners are treated equally and have equal rights.

'That's what we are advocating. Unlike others we want to see all those injustices righted and then we want a level playing field.”

SunLive asked some of the students at yesterday's event who they would you vote for if the election was today and who stood out for them in the debate?

Stevie-Jean Gear, 22:

'My major vote will go to Labour.

'Who stood out for me today was Te Ururoa Flavell because he stood up gave a different spiel and painted a different picture.”

Nadia Mantell, 20:

'My major vote will go to Labour.

'I think the Mana party's approach to Maori issues was good because it embodies everything I believe in.”

Dan Priest, 23:

'I'm still undecided at this stage, but I know who I wouldn't vote for.

'My vote is different every time I vote. I always look what's relevant to me.”

Nick Falaoa, 25:

'My vote will probably be Labour because my family votes for them.

'It's an inherited family vote so nothing sticks out policy wise.”

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10 comments

Past rational & reasoned debate

Posted on 21-08-2014 09:41 | By Murray.Guy

Truth is, as a community we are past rational and reasoned debate in regards 'things Treaty' and specifically the 'special status and culture specific and based policies. Can't put my finger on why, but it has appeared to me for many years that there are influences in our community that have made a deliberate choice to be divisive, especially so the local government and central government. I cannot identify ANY meaningful effort on the part of authorities to best ensure the community at large understands issues and has a chance to participate in outcomes. Personally, I think it's time we spent more time looking into our hearts than putting our own spin on words. Look at evidence and do the 'right thing'.


At Polytech

Posted on 21-08-2014 09:48 | By YOGI BEAR

Interesting, cant have election meetings at the DHB premises but just fine at the Polytech?


Correction

Posted on 21-08-2014 12:37 | By Stuart Pedersen

My comments yesterday were that Maori material disadvantage is clear for all to see in the statistics. The welfare state is there to help disadvantaged people of all races, and sadly Maori are among those getting the most help. I said that ACT believes that having trampled on Maori property rights, the government must put that right through a full and comprehensive settlement process. I said that even if the Treaty is a partnership agreement, which not all agree with, then the best partnership agreements treat all partners equally. ACT's policy is that the law should not need to know who your parents are in order to decide how to deal with you: one country, one law.


Interesting race based comments

Posted on 21-08-2014 13:12 | By How about this view!

"When Maori aren't 50 per cent of the prison population" Are we leaving the resolution of this statistic to non-Maori? When are we going to be honest in this country and accept that hand-outs and free money from other sources is going to do nothing for this statistic? When a holiday at Her Majesties pleasure is better than being at home, what hope is there for reversing historical trends. The most valuable people in this land are the PARENTS of our future generations, if they have been taught that they have to commit crime because they are oppressed or disadvantaged, what hope is there for the future? Anger and resentment compounds over time and if you tell someone that they are useless for long enough it becomes a belief and an excuse rather than a motivation to improve and change their own environment.


Rastus

Posted on 21-08-2014 13:35 | By rastus

There is no logical answer to this problem - if I spent my whole life reliving the past then I would also be sharing and using my interpretation as a reason to commit crime, then who knows where I would now be - forget the past - you are all offered equal rights to learn and prosper and have done since before I was at college 50 years ago. Stop continually making excuses and move onwards and upwards.


Stuart

Posted on 21-08-2014 15:07 | By YOGI BEAR

Good words, but reality is that the settlement process has become derailed into a willy-nilly handout merry-go-round that has lost focus in the real issue. That is of course self serving to all involved. One law for all is the only way, seeing that happening is essential to avoid future strife.


brainwashed = braindead

Posted on 21-08-2014 15:54 | By Captain Sensible

Of course the brainwashed students will support anything maori. They have been systematically brainwashed by the brainwashed teachers since they first set foot in school. Any teacher who suggests the truth in their teaching training fails and sadly, that's a fact.


overseas maori

Posted on 21-08-2014 16:26 | By Captain Sensible

Why is it that maori that go to Australia where there are no handouts, do very well for themselves, yet maori that stay in NZ forever getting handouts, do nothing for themselves. Asians coming to NZ do Ok, so me thinks its something to do with their attitude and work ethic.


Me Queen Victoria??

Posted on 21-08-2014 17:03 | By Deborah Cunliffe

The promises and guarantees made by Queen Victoria in the Tiriti o Waitangi could only be made under English Law as it stood in 1840. There is nothing in the Tiriti o Waitangi or English law giving the Queen the authority to form a ‘partnership' between Maori and the Crown. Hon David Lange our Attorney General stating in 1990, 'Did Queen Victoria for a moment think of forming a partnership with a number of thumb prints and 500 people. Queen Victoria was not that sort of person”. The chiefs gave up their entire territories and governments in 1840 to the Queen forever for protection and the same rights as the people of England - no more - no less. Today we are all New Zealand Citizens of many races under one Sovereignty, one Law and one Nation. He iwi tahi tatou - We are now one Nation


Comment should be passed

Posted on 21-08-2014 23:34 | By How about this view!

On the quality and abilities of some of the candidates that wish to become members of our parliament. One wonders what the true cost of a vote is? Under the MMP system we will undoubtedly have some inept seat fillers that are answerable to none and may only be jumping to the tune of the behind the scenes organ-grinders or bankroll. Have any of us truly given much thought to the backroom deals that will have to be done just to form a parliament? Are we ready to decriminalise via the backdoor or maybe rewrite our laws for the benefit of wealthy patrons or even scrap an outdated document rather than use it to re-establish a workable document? How many overseas governments have crumbled due to coalition differences (Germany, Israel, even the U.K. to some extent)


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