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A political debate is heating up in parliament as one MP pushes to have gay marriage legalised.

A bill is currently in parliament which aims to have gay marriage legalised.

Tauranga Lawyer Chris Forbes, of Bush and Forbes, says although marriage is a religious philosophy, it is also a legal contract.


“It’s about being in an equal partnership. It is about being treated as an equal under the law. It’s about perception and not being treated differently. It is not just a religious issue as you don’t have to get married in a church.

“You can go to a registry office or see a marriage celebrant for a civil service. It is a basic law. Is it okay for one couple to marry and not another? When people get married they are making a long term commitment to love, respect and support each other. It is the same contract regardless of whether you’re gay or straight.

SunLive asked the community what their thoughts were on gay marriage.

 


 

Comments

gay Marriage

Posted on 25-08-2012 15:48 | By girff1

it comes to something when 2 women or 2 men feel the need to get together in marriage. Marriage is meant to be for 2 people of the opposite sex not same sex, and I don’t think they should be aloud to bring childern into there relationship.

Get real

Posted on 24-08-2012 18:05 | By uptonrw@actrix.co.nz

The day two people of the same sex can produce another human is the day I will support same sex marriage.By Richard

More waste

Posted on 05-08-2012 13:30 | By Butch

of the tax payers dollar, as why cannot those that want it be happy with the "Civil Union" law, and get on with it, who bloody cares after all, all that is happening here is a few politicians are "grandstanding", meanwhile the legal profession get fatter, get over it, and get on with it.

SPCA

Posted on 05-08-2012 11:02 | By TERMITE

Better to send them along there they seem to have a good solution for straying and of course being caught.

a realist

Posted on 05-08-2012 07:35 | By katlodge

Marriage aswe know it in western society, was a means of patriachal controlwomen and children were chattles of the ruler of the family the husband, to own property a woman had to be married. Thank strong women and changing values in society for these changes...and it will always change and evolve...This Equal Marrige bill is just part of it.A nessasary legalising of what has already occured!

No discrimination

Posted on 05-08-2012 00:58 | By Blasta

If gay choose to be, let them. Same for those who believe in morality. Let’s not discriminate against them either. It would be wrong to force organisations, churches, and or celebrants to marry people against their personal belief structures or face charges of discrimination. This discrimination argument goes in a continual circle.

common sense

Posted on 04-08-2012 19:52 | By grahamwood

Irrespective of the Biblical aspect, common sense tells us that our bodies are designed in a certain way to function cooperatively for procreation and mutual enjoyment. Anything else is unnatural and also provides a warped picture to children who are imported into such a union. Allowing such same sex unions the same status as man/woman marriage threatens the very fabric of our society in the long run.

Judge not yest ....

Posted on 04-08-2012 19:15 | By Garret

Judge not yest ye be judged in return. Love is a commitment between two people. The SOUL has no gender, only the physical body, so why stop something which is natural for them? I am NOT gay, but I do support this call - there is so much unhappiness and fear in the world, so let’s enjoy our happiness wherever we can get it.

Hang on a minute…

Posted on 04-08-2012 17:35 | By SpeakUp

Let’s just recall...and I don’t wanna be reactionary...marriage in its very sense is between man and woman. Civil union is... well... between anyone who wants to have a civil union. What’s wrong with having both at equal legal level but at distinguishing connotation? What is it that we need to equalize EVERYTHING in society? Can we not live with ‘Civil Unions’ and ‘Marriages’ at the same time? And if not, why? Why? If you call yourself gay then BE gay. If you call yourself hetero then BE hetero. Why is it that every very individualized issue needs to be transformed into something that is PC adaptable for every wannabe chumchum and generalized for common assimilation? Is there no backbone anymore? Is there no individualism? Are gays in need to immerse themselves into mainstream systems at any rate? Gee, wasn’t there once honour with being different and liberated? If I was gay I would run a mile before I was to adopt mainstream PC attitudes. Actually, I am running anyway.......

Dump marriage laws altogether!!??

Posted on 04-08-2012 13:41 | By CC8

It’s the church’s own fault that they now face this dilemma ,they blurred the line between laws/politics and church, thinking that they could run the world and tell us how we all live. Now that they have what is essentially church/religious institution (marriage) embedded in western laws, and it has backfired on them. The answer is to remove marriage/divorce from law altogether.. and every other religious inference or connotation and simply treat a commitment(or not) to each other as a contract between a couple....possibly even for a pre determined term ..... and make that contract enforceable as any other contract within the law.

If one wants to get really....

Posted on 04-08-2012 12:23 | By Batty

critical about all things moral and religious well..think about those who ’live in sin’ does that hold any credence today - Nooo....It’s par for the course and at then if/when a relationship breaks down they law say both have equal rights to chattels etc. (No different the married couple). What about all the divorces do many really care any more?.... Nooo So if Civil union is pretty much accepted why is everyone kicking up such a fuss about a couple that’ll probably have longevity in a marriage than the average not be granted the right to wed. I am all for gay marriage. The more love/caring/ peace we can have in society the better. Gay couples have always had my vote to wed.

My tuppence worth

Posted on 04-08-2012 12:06 | By bigted

Marriage is a relatively recent innovation made by the churches. This grip on us is thankfully being reduced.(No meat on Fridays, burning at the stake, etc). The world need all the peace and love we can give it!

Gay Marriage

Posted on 04-08-2012 11:44 | By carpedeum

This is 21st Century - (openly)same sex couples are now a reality of life. Surely if its good enough to allow Civil Ceremonies then Marriage should also be available. ( and no I’m not gay-happily married with children) Live and Let Live !!

Where is NZ heading

Posted on 04-08-2012 11:43 | By MikkiT

Once upon a time NZ was at the forefront of making break-out big decisions for its people - the vote for women, nuclear-free for example. Now we are so PC it is shameful.

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