Mount i-Site decision angers

Tourism operators are slamming Tourism BOP's decision to shift the Mount Maunganui i-Site from Salisbury Avenue to the Beachside Holiday Park.

Stuart Arnold, owner of Dolphin Seafaris, says the decision is lunacy in the wake of the disruptions of the last year.


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'Rena affected everyone, including the information centre, but that's going to pick up next year.

'To shut down the official i-Site that's part of the nationwide network…to not have an official i-Site for Joe Public in Mount Maunganui is lunacy.”

Tourism BOP has completely lost sight of what it is intended to do, says Stuart.

'Tourism BOP is meant to be in the business of supporting local tourism. The idea of an i-Site is people go in there and get a personal service from people who know all of the local operations…I just can't believe Tourism BOP is doing this to be honest.

'It's not just my business, it's every tourism business in the Bay. We have a very high percentage of bookings which come through the Mount i-Site. Everyone does. Anyone who has a brochure in the brochure rack there, which covers not only marine tourism operations, the charter fishing boats locally, the dive businesses, the hotels, the restaurants, bus tickets, just about anything you can think of that visitors need to know.

'To lose that here in the Bay after what we have had happen in the last 12 months would be disastrous.”

Foot traffic is the decider, says Tourism BOP chief executive Rhys Arrowsmith.

Visitor numbers to i-Sites is down both nationally and internationally and smaller visitor centres are in decline, he says.

He added that better mobile phone technology is increasing the abilities of visitors to book their own activities and accommodation.

'Largely, any visitors that are coming to I-Sites and visitor centres stumble across them,” says Rhys.

'They are foot traffic walking passed them, so as the foot traffic changes and grows we have to look at the relevance to the visitor. That's why we have relocated the visitor information centre back to where it was at the motorcamp there.

'You have a million people walking round the Mount every year. That's where the people on foot are – they are not down by the police station there. It's a simple move that makes absolute obvious sense.”

Finance is a factor, but relevance to the visitor is the most important thing, says Reece.

'We have to put our resources where the growth is.”

Tourism BOP will also increase the size of the on-wharf i-Site to cater for the continuing growth in cruise ship passengers.

'It is by no means a decision made over any correlation between Rena or anything like that,” says Rhys.

'This has been in decline for a number of years, so it's finally got to the point where it's hit a drop so strongly that we basically have to make a sensible move and cater towards what the visitors are wanting and where they are going. It's really as simple as that.”

Stuart says the decision must be overturned and is calling for the city council to financially support the i-Site in Salisbury Avenue.

The independent information centre will have no affiliation with the national i-Site brand, will have no car parks and will be too small to cope with beachside business as well as local tourism, says Stuart.

As such, Stuart believes tourists will likely have to park their vehicles further down the beach, before walking kilometres to receive their information.

The change is scheduled to take place on June 30.
Brochure display racks in the Mount I-Site will be relocated to the Mount Maunganui Beachside Holiday Park. The Holiday Park has agreed to continue to display brochures for all tourism operators with existing brochure display contracts for the Mount Maunganui i-Site until the contracts end on September 30.

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45 comments

Current site ideal

Posted on 08-06-2012 11:42 | By Gee Really

Given the expense of shifting and the increasing difficulty in parking the closer you get to the Mount, I'd have thought the current location was the best. It's near the port for cruise ships, has better parking and for those interested in walking is a good start for a walk along the harbour, then round the Mount and up the beach and back. Maybe the tour operators could rent the old building and compete with the new location???


Please....

Posted on 08-06-2012 11:54 | By Batty

don't shift the I Centre from that sight. It is so accessible to everyone and is in the 'very right; spot now. I would not be looking to find a holiday park to find an info centre anywhere. Very much lunacy in my opinion.


Investigation ...

Posted on 08-06-2012 12:00 | By Murray.Guy

Stuart Arnold is not on his own. For rational reasons that totally by-pass this Councillor there has been a push for such a move for some time, at the back door and no parking, included also in early discussion with the Hot Pool development. For the camping ground (or hot pools reception area) to provide a basic information service would add value, but not as the main provider. The present location is at the 'front door' and accessible to all transport modes, including motor homes, coaches, cars, bikes and pedestrians (from Cruise Ships and onshore). Decisions of this significance being made by CCO's serves only to further my resolve to drastically reduce their scope of delegation and or to dissolve them totally - perhaps withdraw the ratepayer funding and let the industry stand on it's own two feet, as to all other industries. Our new CEO, Ken Paterson is to investigate and report to back to elected members ASAP.


Things are looking up

Posted on 08-06-2012 12:32 | By Openknee8ted

For years the I-Site has been a booking office for the chosen few tourist operators who scratched the appropriate backs. If they want a booking office they can rent the building and pay the wages to operate the place themselves.


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Posted on 08-06-2012 13:28 | By whatsinaname

how stupid is that shifting the site. May be a make over dont shift it. Right at the front door for the cruise ships. first port of call I would say for thousands of tourists. but once again council no best


Supports my Theory

Posted on 08-06-2012 15:07 | By The Sage

..........that Tourism BOP is another waste of funding, along with the Chamber of Commerce and Priority One. Who is going to look in a motor camp, where there is no parking for an Information Centre? Wake up to yourselves.


i kinda like

Posted on 08-06-2012 15:43 | By traceybjammet

While thinking about it as long as the buses are catered for down by the cruise-ships and port I like the idea. There is a small information kiosk on the port where they dis-embark. As a tourist you cant miss the mountain. If I have to point someone in the direction of help I think perfect I would use the surf club as the info centre as it is under-used and what a beautiful spot our beach, our mountain, our bay, and port and shops top spot.Very central


Concerns

Posted on 08-06-2012 20:29 | By Accountable

The only reason they are closing the Mount I-site is TBOP can make more money by ripping off the cruise ship passengers and the operaters in the cruise ship season than they can make in a full year from both I-Sites.The I-Site on the port is the most anti competitive, anti local business idea the council have ever come up with.They are more interested in making money for the council than the survival of local operators as has been proven by their 180% increase in turnover because only they were allowed to operate within the Port area.Stinks does't? We need to close down TBOP and let private enterprise take over.


SAVE OUR LOCAL I-SITE

Posted on 08-06-2012 22:03 | By captainbirdseye

So our precious visitors to Mount Maunganui only stumble across the Mount I-Site according to Tourism BOP, What a statement to make! well visitors please keep stumbling cos your sure not gonna find the new location as easily and visible as the present one is. Funny how the I-Site is always full in the summer season, must be a real lot of people stumbling around the Mount . Get real and improve the direction signage if thats how you see it, got to be a cheaper option than what is proposed now and the ramifications to the local economy. SAVE OUR LOCAL I-SITE!


Is this the real reason?

Posted on 09-06-2012 10:10 | By RichieR

or is it to bring more business to the holiday park there where they have been loosing money every year. This would certainly bring in the visitors wouldn't it to help pay for the large amount of money the council has had to put in to keep this camp ground running and for the work that was needed at the pools. typical of BOP tourism its always about the money. Tourism BOP all need to be expelled and new people put in there who actually give a damn about tourism.


Blurred vision

Posted on 09-06-2012 10:43 | By penguin

Once again we have officials with blurred vision thinking they know best. Well, the government is learning the hard way that "Joe Public" can often have a better and more realistic insight into what works best. So too with i-site. Years ago I attended a tourism forum hosted by Tourism NZ at which the keynote speaker criticised the "short-sightedness" of many involved in the industry in Tauranga/BOP. It seems that little has been learned over the intervening years. Those with blurred vision still have not been to the optician. Tell me - where on earth will all the buses park at the hot pools? Will there be a sign at the wharf telling visitors that there is a 13 minute one kilometre walk to the information centre? And will there be a well-overdue toilet upgrade near the camping ground or will the crappy one (excuse the pun) that is currently there remain, as a monument to centuries gone by?


Two should do it!

Posted on 09-06-2012 11:25 | By Jane Harmer

If the holiday park is already displaying information, why does that need to be formalised? What is wrong with information in two or even three or four places? Like the Library, for example. Or offer busy cafes a free display stand. In a tourist centre, everyone benefits from shared information and increased trade. Put a booth up in the carpark if you have to!!


Current site ok

Posted on 09-06-2012 12:54 | By Mr bay

The current site is ok but the building needs a revamp, it is old and run down looking, not a good look for the tourists off all those cruise ships that come in.


lets really block up the Mount

Posted on 09-06-2012 12:55 | By captainbirdseye

If the I-Site closes down from its present visible and brilliant location, it will also mean even more traffic around the northern end of the peninsular, great thinking by Tourism BOP yet again. Also what do all the other local camping sites and accommodation providers think about a council owned business having control over where visitors can stay, there is too much nepotism here. The existing I-Site not only employs some great local people who love our tourism industry,are impartial but now out of work because the clowns at TBOP want to save a few dollars and look good for the council. The existing location supports local businesses who are ratepayers and provides a direct economic benefit to hundreds of local businesses. SAVE OUR I-SITE!!!


your not wrong capt

Posted on 09-06-2012 13:56 | By RichieR

i am a local accommodation business and i find this appalling that they think they can just do as they want. lets be honest who the monopoly will be when finding accommodation for visitors, and well i never, were already at a holiday park. Is this why the Council spent way to much money on more unused cabins for the Park and now need to fill them. A council who also provides free camping for people and has places like Sulphur Point loaded up with vans and buses camping for free, so it looks more like a gypsey fair. And again taking away an income for the accommodation sector in both Tauranga and the Mount. Nice to know we have your support. Im sure you will be as thrilled as the amount of support i give to you on election day.


Belated benefactor bleeting

Posted on 09-06-2012 14:29 | By SonnyJim

So if,say, there are a hundred or so monetary benefactors then they could have contributed 1 person to man the centre 3 times or less a year?


The new broom doesn't sweep!

Posted on 10-06-2012 09:16 | By monty111

Rhys Arrowsmith has apparently not consulted the people who matter in this situation and if this is an example of how he is going to go forward in his new role then I suggest an early exit.


TRUST???

Posted on 10-06-2012 14:05 | By Fun in the Sun

The real tragedy here is that once again TBOP are clearly not trusted or believed. TBOP after the damage done to many tourist operators after your monopoly grab for the Cruise Ship business last summer your new CEO's first job needs to be regaining the trust of the local tourist operators.


WROMG PLACE!

Posted on 11-06-2012 17:29 | By PLONKER

TBOP clearly want it all to have "phailed" as that then justifies them getting more money from TCC so then employ more staff and so demand more salaries for everyone, it is trhe game you know ... here we go again.


NO SENSE AT ALL

Posted on 12-06-2012 10:04 | By PLONKER

Can't see why this is happening, moving it to the tip of the Mount is very silly, far better to place it where it will be seen on the way into the Mount.


PUBLIC MEETING NEEDED

Posted on 14-06-2012 18:03 | By captainbirdseye

What we need is a public meeting urgently at council chambers on evening to discuss such an important issue affecting so many local businesses where the matter can hopefully get resolved to the satisfaction of all concerned. maybe find out the real reasons why such a valuable local asset to our economy is being dumped in the waste basket! SAVE OUR I-SITE


IDIOT MAGNET MATERIAL

Posted on 14-06-2012 20:49 | By RORTSCAM

Ratepayer funded idiocy at its very best.Tourism Bay of Plenty is another useless outfit that should be closed down permanently as it contributes nothing of value to Tauranga.Seat warming personified.


CAPTAIN

Posted on 14-06-2012 23:26 | By PLONKER

The have just shifted it, not buried it although I would have to admit the end result of what they are doing here can only be to destroy it.


who are these people

Posted on 15-06-2012 12:06 | By Colleen Spiro

Just about as bad as the decision made a few years back to put the isite down by the railway line in Dive Cres a few years back....We had to fight for over two years to get it back into town. Grrr who are these inane people????


i site parking

Posted on 16-06-2012 11:18 | By wendymarsden

have they even considered where all these visitors to the site are going to park. having lived here for most of my life, its not even worth the effort anymore trying to get a carpark down that end of the Mount in summer.


info centre

Posted on 16-06-2012 18:03 | By Glen Clova

Great to here all the expert opinions ,but i am sure the council did a survey of the usage of the centre. How much information do you have on its use.??????


KIRRIE

Posted on 18-06-2012 00:54 | By TERMITE

There has never been a survey by anyone, the obvious is that where it is being relocated to is hopeless, no need of a survey of that.


SURVEY THE OBVIOUS

Posted on 20-06-2012 19:15 | By TERMITE

Stupid if you ask me, why try and confirm that when there is but one answer, but of course it is TCC funded Tourism BOP, not really any different to Smart Growth, another financial knee-capper for ratepayers there to, mega-millions gone in that massive hole also and all the wrong answers out left field and some.


WENDY MARSDEN

Posted on 21-06-2012 00:15 | By PLONKER

No they have not, of course when they realise that will mean another round of planning, committees and spending most likely from that wonderful little reserve "Footpath fund". Just another day at the office of "Creative Tauranga" book shuffling again.


Madness Personified

Posted on 21-06-2012 15:55 | By POCO O POCO

@Kirrie > don't need to get expert survey on this no brainer the Mount i Centre location is good as it is going to get and the proposal is to send it to outer Siberia.TCC COUNCIL and its Pet Toady Tourism BOP wouldn't have a clue what they are doing or what the practical outcome is nor would they care.It is TCC Ratepayers that pick up the bill for this lunacy.


Knuckle rapping

Posted on 22-06-2012 14:56 | By captainbirdseye

How much longer must we abide such negativity by those in power with there heads continuously buried in the sand or up the back end. Well what a democracy we have here in Tauranga. At least 4-5 of the better councilors sitting are against the closure, as they, like us can see the sheer lunacy in closing the Mt I-Site, But guess what , they are not allowed to state this point of view publicly as they are getting knuckles rapped by our mayor who is worried that the board of Tourism BOP have thrown their rattles out of the pram and all threatened to resign because we the ratepayers dare to challenge another totally stupid decision by them. It sucks. If thats the best argument they can make to support our local tourism industry, then please feel free to resign, because if you allow this closure, we are all better off without clowns like you affecting so many peoples businesses and incomes and more importantly how Tourism is presented to the public visiting New Zealand's premier holiday resort. We need a public meeting and your support to stop such lunacy before the damage is done!!!


Kirrie

Posted on 22-06-2012 17:23 | By YOGI

The proposed new site certainy is a lot worse than the current one. Can not see any sense in the change at all, no survey needed to get the right answer on that quesiton for sure.


STOP THE ROT NOW

Posted on 23-06-2012 08:46 | By Hebegeebies

Consensus on reading all the blogs is that Tourism BOP is a waste of time and space as are the 'i Centres' operated by it. Solution shut the whole operation down forthwith saving TCC Ratepayers $millions.Tender it out to local Travel agents and actually get paid money to operate the service.A win win one would think.


TOURISM BOP

Posted on 24-06-2012 10:58 | By PLONKER

Looks to me to be another failed TCC funded monster gobbling up rates money by making silly decisions, the proposed new site is a failure of an idea before it even opens, would guess that they just want to create a reaction then Councilors will throw more money at Tourism BOP as a result ...


I-Sites good local value

Posted on 24-06-2012 19:24 | By captainbirdseye

Hebegeebies the I-Sites are actually great for our local tourism industry, accommodation providers, Motels, backpackers, trips etc and are part of a National network of I-Sites that all work not only in their own regions, but recommend visitors to our local businesses and carry a network of brochures and information that actually make the world go round as far as traveling tourists are concerned. The local I-Site staff are awesome, know our local industry inside out and have worked bloody hard to help the local economy. They are in fact funded by the local Tourism Industry, not the ratepayer!! To lose an important cog in the system at the Mount will not only kill of our tourism big time, but we will lose good skilled employees at the I-site who deserve better than what Tourism BOP are proposing for them! The dole queue!! As usual its the old boys network along with the council & Tourism BOP who live on a different planet to the rest of us and have their little cushy number sitting on their arses doing nothing as usual. What this city needs is a few councilors with some balls to make changes for the better and a Tourism Chief that works with local industry and actually knows what he is doing!!


I-SITES

Posted on 25-06-2012 10:14 | By PLONKER

It is about "where" the site is, the new idea/plan is crazy.


MANAGEMENT AT TBOP

Posted on 25-06-2012 22:43 | By PLONKER

The quality of decisions reflects the quality of management, the comments below here speel it out clearly.


Beautiful sight at the new site for the i-Site

Posted on 30-06-2012 23:43 | By Rich

I suspect that i-Site users at the new site will see that walking up and around Mauao is a popular activity. Perhaps they'll be more likely to do so, too, and then have stunning photographs to share with friends and family back home, thereby increasing the word-of-mouth advertising for this beautiful part of the world. If good suggestions are given to the cruse ship travellers, before they depart the ship, then I expect that many of them wouldn't have a problem with walking along Pilot Bay to get to the i-Site. With the buses travelling that way, too, it wouldn't be difficult for the visitors to take a ride if they didn't want to walk. I am confident that the new location will prove to have been a positive move. The staff at the base of Mauao are friendly; I'm sure they'll serve the city and tourism dependent businesses well in their new ambassadorship role.


Beautiful sight from the new site for the i-Site

Posted on 30-06-2012 23:44 | By Rich

I suspect that i-Site users at the new site will see that walking up and around Mauao is a popular activity. Perhaps they'll be more likely to do so, too, and then have stunning photographs to share with friends and family back home, thereby increasing the word-of-mouth advertising for this beautiful part of the world. If good suggestions are given to the cruse ship travellers, before they depart the ship, then I expect that many of them wouldn't have a problem with walking along Pilot Bay to get to the i-Site. With the buses travelling that way, too, it wouldn't be difficult for the visitors to take a ride if they didn't want to walk. I am confident that the new location will prove to have been a positive move. The staff at the base of Mauao are friendly; I'm sure they'll serve the city and tourism dependent businesses well in their new ambassadorship role.


keeping it local

Posted on 04-07-2012 13:09 | By budgettga

An interesting array of views. I have heard that Tourism BOP have employed a Christchurch company to rebuild their website. We have a number of companies here that do fantastic work and a number that have done a lot for the tourism market here....why when you have Priority One advertising in Auckland "Bring your business to Tauranga" is Tauranga taking their business elsewhere??


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Posted on 04-07-2012 13:33 | By Warrior62

TBOP is a council controlled organisation and according to legislation must provide an annual Statement of Intent to TCC who must consider it and approve or request amendments within specified time constraints. So, what does TBOP's current SoI say and when and where was it published? The gross financial gain to TBOP from having a sales booth on the Port at a time when most businesses realised an average decrease of 30% is testament to TBOP being an active tourism operator and not a promotional or advocacy entity. Do you all know that TBOP have also secured all the parking in front of the MOSC and POT for the coming cruise ship season? So, Mt Maunganui businesses it is highly unlikely you will get the extra business because the cruise ship coaches will be taking them away before they even see town.


TBOP Motives Evident

Posted on 04-07-2012 16:47 | By wonderer

Rhys Arrowsmith clearly identifies TBOPs motives re Mt Maunganui and that is to generate revenue for TBOP. He states that the location of i-sites is all about "relevance to the visitor" and that usage is generally in decline. TBOP is not relocating the Mt i-site to the holiday park it is relocating operator brochures there. The Mt i-site is being relocated to larger premises on the Port where only cruise ship passengers can access it and presumably only cruise ship related operators will be "promoted" aka sold giving TBOP a commission. TBOP did this last year and created its own competition with the Mt i-site - no wonder it "hit a drop so strongly" so that the decline in patronage was in fact self-generated with the result self-prophesying Rhys - "its really as simple as that".So, Cr Guy, if TBOP is an council controlled organisation why isn't the council controlling it? Or is it really controlling it and looking to use it as a cash cow for a cash strapped council? Finally it is bemusing that TBOP states that resources should be directed to the growth, aka cruise ship market, which has always been located just 50m from the Mt i-site! Closing the Port i-site and making better use of the Mt i-site would make better sense as the Port i-site only services one highly seasonable market while the Mt i-site services the entire tourism community without seasonality. Thanks TBOP for making tourism in the BOP even more seasonable than before.


Quality Welcome for Tourists Ha Ha!

Posted on 06-07-2012 17:14 | By captainbirdseye

Well Ryhs Arrowsmith is closing a great I-site servicing the whole community, for, would you believe Two 40ft Containers with a new paint job and a canvas cover between them both. I am amazed how these people can even consider that a couple of old containers that will always look like a couple of old containers irrespective of a paint job will suffice to welcome wealthy cruise ship passengers to our wonderful mount. What planet does Rhys Arrowsmith live on, cant be Planet Earth. Great logic from Wonderer here below, you have hit the nail on the head exactly! TBOP is target rated by our great council to be 100% self funded by the local Tourism Industry, so technically The local Tourism Industry are paying all of their operating costs and wages. So how is it that TBOP do not even consider their EMPLOYERS as such and have some kind of consultation with the industry when making such a blunderous decision to close a great local Icon, a decision that puts local tourism back 20 years and affects so many locals business income as well as the facility provided by some awesome people that worked the I-Site. Fact, Rhys states we cannot afford to run the Mount I-Site, which only ever has two staff!! Funny now he states at a meeting of cruise ship operators last week that he intends having a possible staff of 18 plus in this new I-Port ( Flash painted Container ) that the general public cant access at all inside the dock gate, what utter Bull....t Who needs Rena, we have TBOP!!!


Quality Welcome for Tourists Ha Ha!

Posted on 06-07-2012 17:15 | By captainbirdseye

Well Ryhs Arrowsmith is closing a great I-site servicing the whole community, for, would you believe Two 40ft Containers with a new paint job and a canvas cover between them both. I am amazed how these people can even consider that a couple of old containers that will always look like a couple of old containers irrespective of a paint job will suffice to welcome wealthy cruise ship passengers to our wonderful mount. What planet does Rhys Arrowsmith live on, cant be Planet Earth. Great logic from Wonderer here below, you have hit the nail on the head exactly! TBOP is target rated by our great council to be 100% self funded by the local Tourism Industry, so technically The local Tourism Industry are paying all of their operating costs and wages. So how is it that TBOP do not even consider their EMPLOYERS as such and have some kind of consultation with the industry when making such a blunderous decision to close a great local Icon, a decision that puts local tourism back 20 years and affects so many locals business income as well as the facility provided by some awesome people that worked the I-Site. Fact, Rhys states we cannot afford to run the Mount I-Site, which only ever has two staff!! Funny now he states at a meeting of cruise ship operators last week that he intends having a possible staff of 18 plus in this new I-Port ( Flash painted Container ) that the general public cant access at all inside the dock gate, what utter Bull....t Who needs Rena, we have TBOP!!!


Wishful thinking??

Posted on 08-07-2012 10:07 | By Warrior62

Its all very well that TBOP look to implement these initiatives around the expectation that they are going to acquire ALL of the FIT foot traffic from the cruise ships, but have they asked the cruise line and even more so the ships agent (IBO)if they can "cash in" on business that first and foremost does not belong to them. It is obvious that TBOP aren't confident in their "allie" (former IBO from the last 2 seasons)getting a re-newed contract - so their inroad into that market has been shut down, INSTEAD they are now turning to the so called Small Operators (whom they shafted last year at the last minute and will do so again) to gain tourism product to pay their way - funny isn't it - with help of their partners - TCC & Port of Tauranga, the monopoly members keep on keeping on! Fact is ... Will the cruise lines allow a whole lot of trading taking place from THEIR clientele without them receiving anything? Ummm ... don't think so - Wasn't that the reason the Small Operators were removed off the Port last season? ... or was it the Kiwi fruit season? ... hang on, wasn't it a DIRECT request from the Shipping lines (Well Shipping lines & cruise lines aren't the same thing) You see Shipping Lines refers to Mackay Shipping (the providore) ... thats not the cruise line who owns the passengers. The Shipping line (in this case Mackay) is ALSO owned by the same person that OWNED the ships tour agency - ID Tours ... get a grip of this ... the same dude that is chairman for Cruise New Zealand (Cruise Association). They're the ones that provide the dinners and finger food to Mayor Crosby and his cohorts in order to get extra favours in the community and even move i-sites to council owned camping grounds (and we're only talking Tauranga, what happens in the other 6 port destinations??). TBOP are the 'scrubbers' for cartele organisations - TCC & Port of Tauranga etc. They use and abuse their power to control markets ... however, the whispers across the Atlantic have it that there are powers greater then theirs who have been following developments and it's all about to change ... and guess what, certain indications of late point to this being correct!! TBOP and the NZTA are currently engaged in meetings with tourism operators on how to conduct their businesses. NZTA ... like wtf! A transport authority is now telling tourism operators how to run their business! ... are they for real?? "Where do you find the best Hangi Concert in NZ - Ring NZTA??" This is as laughable?? First you had the Port of Tauranga running the tourism in Tauranga and now a Transport Authority - Watch this space


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