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Directors of the Tauranga City Council controlled organisation Tauranga City Aquatics Ltd have been found responsible for printing a misleading advertisement about the Mount Hot Pools redevelopment project.

The complaint to the Advertising Standards Authority against the advertisement has been upheld on appeal.


The Advertising Standards Authority have upheld an appeal on an advertisement for Tauranga City Aquatics Limited.

The advertisement prepared by Village PR, appeared in a Tauranga daily paper on July 30, 2011 under a TCAL letter head, entitled “The redevelopment of the Mount Hot Pool must go ahead”.

Tauranga accountant Ian Stevenson complained the advertisement breached a number of advertising codes as it was untruthful and misleading. The identity of the advertiser was not clear and the advertisement relied on unsubstantiated claims.

The advertisement in the form of an open letter stated it was paid for by four TCAL directors, former chairman Warren Banks, Shirley Baker, Michael King and Hemi Rolleston.

Warren Banks and Michael King have since resigned from the board.

He also complained about false statements in the advertisement, including a claim that TCAL took over aged aquatics facilities in 2005 – the same year that Baywave was opened.

TCAL did not take over the management of the facilities until 2009 when Leisure Co was placed in receivership in June 2009.

The Advertising Complaints Board’s ruling in November was that the complaint not be upheld. This was appealed.

Ian’s appeal challenged TCAL’s statements to the ASA stating TCAL simply regurgitated what was in the advertisement and provided none of the reports claimed to have been used.

He was put fully to the test on his complaint and required to fully cover the reasons and the errors contained in the advertisement and to support the basis for his complaint, while the advertiser produced nothing in rebuttal. The onus on the advertiser to rebut his complaint was not discharged.

The ASA agreed stating in January that the advertiser TCAL has to provide clear and robust evidence to substantiate all claims made in the advertisement and the information provided must be sufficient to enable the complaints board to independently assess the accuracy of the advertised claims made.

When claims are made backed by ‘research’ they had to provide the material to substantiate the claim. The complaints board was directed to reconsider its finding.

In a decision released last week, the ASA now finds the TCAL advertisement breached Basic Principle 3 and Rule 2 of the code of ethics.

It further noted the use of survey could mislead or deceive as detailed results of the surveys referred to in the advertisement had not been presented – breaching Rule 3 of the code of ethics in which advertisements should not use tests or surveys in a manner which is misleading or deceptive.

Basic Principle 3 states no advertisement should be misleading or deceptive or likely to mislead or deceive the consumer.

Rule 2 notes advertisements should not contain any statement or visual presentation or create an overall impression which directly or by implication, omission, ambiguity or exaggerated claim, is misleading or deceptive, is likely to mislead the consumer, makes false and misleading representation, abuses the trust of the consumer or exploits his her lack of experience or knowledge.


 

Comments

VINDICATION REPEATED

Posted on 13-06-2012 15:42 | By PLONKER

TCC voted to hand over about $3 million to TCAL, for the little wee cost over run on the repair bill from $1.4 million to $2.7 million (still awaiting for the repairs to happen of course ...), reportedly some $1.2+ million, then there is a failed RMA consent party fest that ratepayers are now paying for, that means another $1.5 million or something (total costs moer like $4-5 million and some), now they want to spend another $300,000 on new gym gear to make the losses bigger and worse than ever before.

LOOK FOR THE TRUTH

Posted on 12-06-2012 23:06 | By YOGI

No sign of what really happened.

BUSTED SCAM INDEED

Posted on 04-06-2012 11:08 | By TERMITE

About time this lot got nailed, TCAL is probably the worst at the "PR creative" but as they are babes at it they tend to be a little youthfully naive so end up being "Misleading and Deceptive of ratepayers" but the masters of all are TCC, these wombles are indeed something to watch when it comes to spin-doctoring a shambles into sommething completely different.

Read the ASA Decision

Posted on 01-06-2012 12:32 | By Scambuster

Readers should take the time to read the ASA decision online www.asa.co.nz Complaint 11/471 & Appeal 11/069 which I found rather enlightening. ENJOY it will demonstrate to you what TCAL gets up to.

IN HOT WATER AGAIN

Posted on 29-05-2012 17:24 | By PLONKER

Looks like the Mount Pools are in for a coat of paint and a few other superficial reapirs of a "minor" nature, the official schedule is about 10 weeks, how minor is that. Bet ya that will be more like 15+ weeks and of course they are learning a bit better this time they are not saying what the cost is so as they can pretend that the blow out in costs did not happen, it is all about being "transparent" they certainly are that!

IN HOT WATER STILL ...

Posted on 29-05-2012 00:17 | By YOGI

Of course the leadership at TCAL gone and come back again but really nothing has changed, the public are still awaiting a full and open account of the debarcle of the RMA Consent process that cost millions and more. I believe Councilors are also awaiting for any explanation to.

DEMAND THE TRUTH!

Posted on 26-05-2012 14:12 | By TERMITE

But of course it has been demanded and ignored. That is what you get when the tail is wagging the dog. The dog of course thinks that it is in charge yet that is only because of a few "Scobby snacks" thrown in to distract while the real stuff passes by into the never never land ... and the money has gone and the debt is to the max as usual, there is now no escape from reality, just a case of when!

DUSTED AND SOME

Posted on 26-05-2012 10:40 | By PLONKER

There has been a huge cloud over TCAL from everyones elses view of it, TCC and TCAL have been hiding the truth for a long time and so deliberately misleading the public, but this is just a chink in the armour, there still is no information and facts on the table even for Councilors as yet. So it is a victory but still not information available to show otherwise as yet.

MYTH BUSTED!

Posted on 25-05-2012 12:15 | By YOGI

Tested, challenged and found wanting, next stop send them to "Myth Busters" sure to fail to float there to.

ETHICS INDEED

Posted on 24-05-2012 01:00 | By PLONKER

I still think that after reading the decision that there is a lot missing from a Phailed commentary, looks to me that a tarnish of significance is clouding your view.

BS STORIES

Posted on 23-05-2012 10:29 | By YOGI

So we pay for the botch-up sagas and then also for the ’spin’ to cover it up talk about self gratification and some.

PAID FOR RORTING

Posted on 22-05-2012 21:26 | By TERMITE

So the spin-doctoring that we pay for in our rates one way or another is "misleading and deceptive" of the poor old Joe Bloogs average ratepayer earner being hammered again.

@Plonker and others similar

Posted on 22-05-2012 09:38 | By Phailed

Just a technicality eh? Sounds like a Yeah right to me? Technically "preparing accounts without due care and diligence" still is very poor in my view. Anyway as you’re happy to keep raising technicalities I’m happy to keep debating the issue whenever Stevensons activities come up. To some of us, ethics are important.

PAHILED TECHNICALITY?

Posted on 21-05-2012 22:40 | By PLONKER

That look to be it mate. Ont he other hand TCAL seem to have made a complete and utter blunder, please do get things in perspective.

Then Termite . .

Posted on 18-05-2012 21:24 | By Phailed

why plead guilty to the charges including preparing accounts without due care and diligence??? Maybe you think it’s alright for an accountant to withdraw fees without authority. I don’t. And it’s not ok to advertise misleadingly either. Both wrong in my book.

VILLAGE PR

Posted on 18-05-2012 16:35 | By JAFFA

Does anyone know how they are involved in this shocking level of advertising, would seem that the level of care and responsibility is lacking by a large margin. Perhaps those responsible should be exposed sa to who they are and what imput they had, who wrote it, who provided the information, who approved it? If they have been slack-as then a full retraction should be printed by the offending paper concerned and then an independant review of what was said restated truthfully (that would take several pages I bet). It is really bad that our public ratepayer money goes into these silly things that seem to do little more than misled the ratepayers after the money has all been spent.

For the records sake ...

Posted on 18-05-2012 16:26 | By JAFFA

Guess that the records were hard to come by as communication was said to be a problem. How can anyone do therer job if the records are not there? Anyway IRD says it is the clients responsibility to keep the records and to keep everything in order. Perhaps the first question of Stevenson is did you have all teh records, if he did then shame on him, if he did not then not his problem.

PHAILED AGAIN!

Posted on 18-05-2012 10:50 | By TERMITE

I read it all again online, interesting to see that it says that fees were taken without authority ... but it also says that "no money missing" so if that was the case then the fees must have been right in the first place. Please FAILED, take another think on it, you may get onto the right page yet.

@Speakup, Vomit, Termite etc

Posted on 17-05-2012 18:42 | By Phailed

One thing I know for sure, if I had an accountant I wouldn’t want one who withdrew fees without authority and prepared accounts without due care and diligence. I guess the client was unhappy hence the charges and the guilty plea. You can try and rewrite that anyway you like but it doesn’t get away from the facts. I say again I don’t support misleading advertising from TCAL or anyone else. But I don’t support withdrawing fees without authority either. Trying to think of that term that somes that sort of thing up?

SPEAKUP

Posted on 17-05-2012 17:48 | By Vomit

Yeah mate I got the same answer, I think Phailed has for sure FAILED to read it properly.

@Phailed

Posted on 17-05-2012 13:49 | By morepork

You asked for an explanation from me but both SpeakUp and TERMITE have pointed the direction. Read the FULL story. No missing funds, nothing other than an attempt to protect investors, rather than just walk away. The charges you quoted were the best that could be levelled by the Prosecution. If some of our public servants were more cocerned with WHAT’s right rather than WHO’s right, Ratepayers could rest a little easier. If you think that a technicality of "without due care and diligence" is a heinous crime, you must be pretty disgusted with TCAL... And yet there is no mechanism whereby they can be "censured" and it took an appeal to the highest authority to even make them front up at all. What accountant you choose is entirely a matter for you and you have complete power in deciding; when it comes to choosing a Council the matter is far less clear cut. (Nice nom-de-plume, BTW :-))

PHAILED FAILED !!!

Posted on 17-05-2012 11:36 | By TERMITE

Looks to me that you are on the "wrong page" mate in every sense of the word. If you cared to read the report in full and so realised the bottom line of it you would see the answer to all your dreams ... whatever they are disappearing into thin air. The report clearly say that all monoy is accounted for, nothing is missing down to ever last dollar. That sounds damn good to me. Sounds more like some lofty paper shufflers have decided that they wanted to do something anyway but could not find any substance to the claims made so in desperation have given the second lowest option available to them, the only other option is to "WALK AWAY" for doing the right thing. I recommend you read the whole thing and objectively then come to a conclusion.

who's

Posted on 17-05-2012 08:46 | By Capt_Kaveman

idea was it to spend $ on the hotpools advertising we all know its there infact a greater nz population know its there so why waste $ on silly poster adverts like ive seen on the back of buses lately

@ Phailed

Posted on 17-05-2012 08:35 | By SpeakUp

If you need an explanation, read the original story including comments on Sunlive, which explained quite well that Mr Stevenson protected trustee interests without ANY self-interest.

@Morepork about Stevenson

Posted on 17-05-2012 00:29 | By Phailed

Please explain clearly how "withdrawing fees without authority and preparing accounts without due care and diligence" could be in "the best interests of his clients." You’ve made that claim, now explain it please???

By Fed Up

Posted on 16-05-2012 22:13 | By hot_ice

yes I am fed up with sheeple that don’t have what Ian S has . . . courage, belief and what it takes to stand up and be counted. Never mind I sopse the transgression from school boy bullies that hide the bike shed is is - boy bullies that hide behind the puter screen. Easy aye? I have been to TCC meetings and seen this man stand and say his peice in his time AND contribute to saving TCC ratepayers many thousands of dollars. e.g. the hot pools fiasco!

to Fed Up

Posted on 16-05-2012 22:13 | By hot_ice

yes I am fed up with sheeple that don’t have what Ian S has . . . courage, belief and what it takes to stand up and be counted. Never mind I sopse the transgression from school boy bullies that hide the bike shed is is - boy bullies that hide behind the puter screen. Easy aye? I have been to TCC meetings and seen this man stand and say his peice in his time AND contribute to saving TCC ratepayers many thousands of dollars. e.g. the hot pools fiasco!

@Fed Up & Phailed

Posted on 16-05-2012 21:47 | By morepork

A man stands up for an issue of importance to the community (many of us are heartsick over the Hot Pools fiasco) and shows there was misbehaviour and deflection on a grand scale, and all you can do is draw attention to the fact that he was in the news recently? What he did was in the best interests of his clients and showed no dishonesty or intention to defraud on his part. Can the same be said for TCAL in their "management" of the Hot Pools? It has been a very sad fiasco for over a year now with incredible insensitivity and mismanagement at many levels. I, for one, am glad that Ian has been vindicated in his appeal and we are all now made aware of the rubbish they were trying to feed us. It is time there was some accountability and responsibility; the Chief of a company does not go on holiday when there is a crisis, and the answer to the "plebs" pressing for answers is NOT a lying full page ad and the retaining of the services of a PR company (at more Ratepayers expense) to try and spin what was patently, at best, incompetence, at worst, deliberate self-serving with Ratepayers’ money. Well done, Ian and congratulations!

@SpeakUp about Ian Stevenson

Posted on 16-05-2012 20:12 | By Phailed

You may regard things like pleading guilty to "withdrawing fees without authority" and "preparing accounts without due care and diligence" as trifling. I don’t, because I value higher standards than that. By the way I don’t condone TCAL’s advertising, but I find Mr Stevenson being the complainant quite ironic given his own actions as detailed on Sunlive. Maybe it’s just me.

TCAL v TCVL v TCIL v TCC, where does it stop?

Posted on 16-05-2012 20:07 | By Ian Stevenson

The real "Vic-tum" here is the ratepayers, they are being hammered in all directions, the rates will rise a lot for the likes of TCAL are the reason, budgets and costs are out of control and Elected Members and the CEO are desperately (some are anyway) trying to wrestle some accountability.

well done Ian

Posted on 16-05-2012 17:55 | By hot_ice

Great to see hard work getting excellent results. You will always get the school yard bullies that hide behind puter screens. All the best.

well done Ian

Posted on 16-05-2012 17:54 | By hot_ice

Great to see hard work getting excellent results. You will always get the school yard bullies that hide behind puter screens. All the best.

@Phailed

Posted on 16-05-2012 16:21 | By SpeakUp

Nice nome de plume! Anyone who knows the technicalities will realize that this was an up-righted mouse s**t trifle. Stevenson is one of the few who shows UTMOST concern for the public which renders your comment ’shill quality smear’. Mr Stevenson, as so many others (to mind comes Mr Paterson), give their personal time and effort to support the people of this region in their battle against bureaucratic largess. What can you show for the community??? -Citizen Monitoring Council-

Is this the same Ian Stevenson?

Posted on 16-05-2012 15:35 | By Phailed

Reported in Sunlive a few days ago: Ian "pleaded guilty to three charges arising from a client complaint; dealing with client monies through his practice account rather than a trust account, withdrawing fees without authority and preparing accounts without due care and diligence."

FED UP, THAT IS HELPFUL ADVICE

Posted on 16-05-2012 15:32 | By Ian Stevenson

The money wasted here actually was ratepayers money not mine. Although I have spent some of my time (unpaid because it was clearly wrong, misleading and deceptive) that has not cost anyone except me, however the advertisement was reportedly paid for by four of TCAL’s directors (they even refused to prove that). The advertisement clearly shows the intention of these individuals, they are the representatives of TCAL and of course are appointed via the Councilors to represent ratepayers best interests, that did not happen. The costs to date of TCAL of around $4-5m pa, the Mount Hot Pools failed RMA quest of around $5-6m and the botched repair work last year of some $2.3m (should have been $1.4m) shows a trail of blatent carnage that was all avoidable. In end result the ratepayer is forced to pick up the tab and pay more rates.

Well done Ian Stevenson

Posted on 16-05-2012 13:58 | By SpeakUp

But let’s not forget that these stooges have not paid a single dollar for advertisement or any legal proceedings. Such CEOs ’earn’ hundreds of thousands of dollars but we the ratepayers pay these subjects’ expenses, incurred by their inappropriate behaviour and mismanagement. When will such ‘managers’ be held personally liable for on-going, blatant and deceitful administrative bungling?

tenacious and thank you!

Posted on 16-05-2012 13:34 | By yikes61

Well done that man! TCALs CEO name doesn’t appear anywhere in this article. Wouldnt Tania Delahunty have had to put her seal of approval on the advert being released?

MILE STONE DECISION

Posted on 16-05-2012 12:47 | By Ian Stevenson

The onus of proof here is on the advertiser to prove that what they say in an advertisement is truthful and fair. Sadly TCAL did not provide any information at all. The implication of that is that what they did not have any evidence to prove what they were saying, hence the decision. That means either: - they had no evidence or that the evidence they did have showed something else a lot different (different of course meaning and most likely the truth for example and of course they did not want anyone to see that). The same situation also applies to other aspects of TCC such as the Airport, TCVL, Baypark and TECT arena just to name a few. We currently have on the table the Jazz Festival where ratepayer money has been approved to be allocated when the committee did not have authority to do so and was outside of TCC’s policy, this was known before the vote was taken to prove a grant and loan totaling some $130,000 (the loan will never to be repaid as the Jazz lost $190,000 or so). There is much more to TCAL then is included in this advertisement and ASA decision.

Money & Time Waster

Posted on 16-05-2012 12:18 | By Fed Up

Ian Stevenson is nothing more than a money and time waster. If he spent as much time worrying about his own affairs and business "issues" as he does worrying about things like this, then maybe he wouldn’t be in the papers himself. Get over the small stuff Ian! http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/25125-tauranga-accountant-censured.html

Thank you Ian Stevenson

Posted on 16-05-2012 11:34 | By Openknee8ted

You got my vote.

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