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The National Jazz Festival looks set to return to profitable basics following a second major loss for the Easter weekend event.

The 2011 National Jazz Festival lost about $100,000 while Jazz Society president David Haig says this year’s losses are still being tallied it has been confirmed the $1.5million event failed to break even.


“We had indications prior to Easter that it was very slow in some quarters with regard to ticket sales,” says David.

David says the total loss will not be known until the end of the week.

David took over as Jazz Society president on January 1 after the previous president took up overseas employment.

“I was on the committee, and part of it was already in place, so what we did on the first meeting Tuesday was to say things need to change,” says David.

“I spoke on the basis of retaining the National Jazz Festival, but it will be very much back to local talent from New Zealand and as far as international, it will probably only extend to Australia.
“That seems to be the sort of message I have had for a couple of years in the jazz scene that makes sense to me.”

David says organisers “still had to go for it” and make the 50th anniversary festival something special.

“What didn’t come off was some of the music that was rejected, and people just voted by saying I’m not going to that concert,” says David.

“Everything else was going for it, the weather was fine, we had big crowds around for other functions as well in Tauranga. If we were going to pick up people they would have heard what was playing and we would have done so.”

David says the change in direction means other changes to the festival, but they are yet to be decided.

“We have had tentative discussions and we have put some things in place, but the fine lines haven’t been advised as to personnel.

“There will obviously be changes to the way any director would take on the new programme because it would be different - absolutely different.

“There wouldn’t be the same entrepreneurial requirement to be searching the world, UK, USA and wherever, because we will get back to that basics. The talent is here, the variety is here and that’s what people want.”

The Jazz Society committee is working with jazz festival organiser Arne Herrman to get all outstanding accounts from suppliers.

“Our immediate project is to see how we can come out of this without too many people being disadvantaged,” says David.

“It is going to be a slow methodical thing contacting the people, who have not been paid. If you pay people straight away and you haven’t got all the bills in, we don’t know exactly what we have got. It would be difficult to claw back some of the money if you have to treat everybody the same across the board.

David says the overseas acts have already been paid as part of their contract.

Although the Jazz Society’s reserves from previous financially successful festivals now been used, David says the Jazz Festival will continue.

 “We need everyone need to know it’s going to be an ongoing thing. Long before it took a different tangent it had been going, and it will continue to go. It got to 50 and didn’t go into a retirement village.
“There will be a 51, 52 and because the members will have the support behind to make sure it happens.

“I must say over the weekend and during the week I have had phone calls of support from members. It was heartening to have calls from various people saying ‘all you have to do is sing out and I will be there’.

“That’s what the society is about. We draw and line in the sand and we get back to the basics of what a jazz society is about.

“I’m aware that the committee has had to rethink things and that’s a good thing, because sometimes you get to a stage where you think you are on track. 

“You can go off and think that was wonderful, that it was successful in various ways, but if it’s not financially, then it’s not successful.”


 

Comments

Where to

Posted on 21-04-2012 16:47 | By bopsaint

Liam and Arne was paid to go to the North Sea Jazz Fest and came back with EWF Patti Austi and Keb Mo all off the shirt tails of Byron Bay. I question the jazz knowledge of both directors. Doors Tribute whats that about. Did they get paid? The incoming committee have a huge job to restore faith not only in Tauranga but with all NZ jazz muso’s. Roger Manins and this is for an earlier poster was at the Festival but was put in the Historical Village.

Freedom of Speech

Posted on 19-04-2012 15:27 | By kiaora2u

I and others have been blocked from placing comments on the Tauranga National Jazz Festival face book site....Seems like there is someone out there, that has an ego problem and doesn’t want to hear the truth from the PEOPLE.

@patsyanne

Posted on 19-04-2012 09:19 | By DRich

Ha ’jizzfizz’ that’s a good one. My point was not about promo, per se, but as news: i.e. regardless of wheeling and dealing, a an org that claims to cover ’news’ should reasonably be expected to cover news regardless of parochial interests. I expect the same of both sides, don’t you?

@DRich

Posted on 18-04-2012 20:50 | By patsyanne

why the hell should SunLive have given the jizzfest ANY promotion, since the doh-brains running the jizzfizz in their infinite wisdom, chose to sign a deal with the lesser media in town, excluding all others, including the Sun. ungrateful woofters are lucky SunLive graciously gave them any coverage at all! Kiaora, these media can only report the numbers given to them by the "organisers" (I use the term loosely) but it shows how loose the management was, when their reported benefits differ so wildly.

youth music

Posted on 18-04-2012 20:14 | By tuhuamaid

I would love to hear the best of the youth big bands on Saturday (say for $10 or so) and the best of the jazz combos on Sunday and if not "the best" any youth musicians who could logistically (as many travel as a group) stay in town the extra day.

Frankie

Posted on 18-04-2012 09:24 | By Chrianne

So many worthy comments. Please, KISS (keep it simple stupid) from here on in and we don’t need to pay fat salaries to two guys whose musical tastes are not jazz. There are oodles of willing people who’ll do it for the love of it and not all are "past it"either.

Money Brought into the Area

Posted on 18-04-2012 09:05 | By kiaora2u

Just wanted to point out as well...That Sunlive reported that $10 million was generated into the area by this festival and the BOP Times reported it was $20 million...Where do they get these figures?

Nelson Too

Posted on 18-04-2012 09:02 | By kiaora2u

Seems like Nelson is having the same problem and our Artistic Directors name is there as well. http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/6414065/Plug-pulled-on-jazz-festival

Caution

Posted on 18-04-2012 08:58 | By DRich

You’d have to have been buried under a pile of moth-eaten doilies in a forgotten cupboard of a Matua Resthome to have missed the advertising on this - TV, radio, print, online, billboards, posters, social media...yes sunlive coverage was basically nil, and BOP TImes (as sponsor?) predictable and often lamentable, but come on...there were plenty of $$$ spent on advertising

SOAPY SLOPPY HOGWASH

Posted on 18-04-2012 08:06 | By KAMIKAZE

Back to basics indeed it seems David Haig was Jazz Society president from early 2012 and part of the Jazz Committee all along so why the sudden change of heart.Could have spoken out earlier.The whole Jazz Committee needs to resign and start afresh to find people that care about Jazz & music who can successfully run a low key low budget spectacle.It used to be a great event as it was in the early 2000s until commercialism ruined the whole Festival.ON the question of non payments to event performers that is just not on- I bet EWF got paid up front and the professional organizers got their fat retainers paid out first !!! This gives Tauranga a real bad name as a venue and we don’t need to lose money just to achieve this sort of poor reputation.

Dear John Letter

Posted on 17-04-2012 21:29 | By DRich

Here’s the text of the group email, from the Jazzfest office, copied to myself as manager of a contracted artist who performed on Easter Sunday. I think the bland, trite corporate speak that they use to nonchalantly brush such creditors off speaks volumes about the existing organisational culture, so good luck to David Haig: Hi, It was great having you at the Festival. Thanks for being part of the 50th anniversary. You might have already heard that we have come out of the Festival with a deficit. We are working with our partners on sorting this shortfall out, but this is taking a bit more time. We are planning to pay the majority of your fee on May 20th and if its not 100% and we have to delay the final payment further, we sincerely apologize for the inconvenience this may cause at your end. It is a difficult situation for us, but we are committed to sorting this all out. Thanks for your patience. Becks Becks Chambers Administration Manager National Jazz Festival 07 577 7018

NZ Jazzpersons in Oz

Posted on 17-04-2012 21:28 | By grumpyme

Across the ditch are, to name just a few, Mathew Ottignon, Jonathon Zwartz, Tina Harrod, Roger Manins, Peter Dasent.... who are all too rarely heard in NZ

Bigger isn't necessarily better...

Posted on 17-04-2012 18:05 | By mistarex

Great to see some commonsense and realisation that ’someone’ has to pay for the rather grandiose attempts of the last few years and the publis ain’t!..New Orleans we are not and, ya know, most of us locals are happy with that. Locals love local music too!!! It will still attract visitors for whom our local acts are out of town acts anyways lol? Good first steps David Haig :-)

Yeah Right Haven't got the message before

Posted on 17-04-2012 17:53 | By RORTSCAM

The story I have is that the dingbats responsible for the financial mess are out scouting around for new community funding suckers like TECT to refloat the ’Jazz Titanic’.They certainly have not learned any lessons so let them fund the losses personally & that may focus them.Oh and where is the original business cash flow budget for last year ??

And about time

Posted on 17-04-2012 17:12 | By Hector

The Council input from now on should be in way of making it easier to get consents, and that is it, with proper management Tauranga during Easter can party on, and why would you spend $100.00 to see E.W.F when the music in town is free, it is not rocket science to figure out why for the last 2 years the event has lost money.Last year the Weather was always going to happen, and that was not entirly to blame, the writing was on the wall that people wanted value for their entertainment dollar, anyone in the hospitality industry would have told you that it was slow!!!!. Now here is a thought, why not "astro turf" the reclamation, security fence the entire area, put the stages back against the water edge, pinic tables and umbrellas, big party area, charge a fee to get into the Strand, have the music playing until 10.00, put up temporary foot bridges over the rail lines, it goes on. And I hope the person that gets the role of running the Festival listens to what the public want. I maybe premature, but bye bye Arne!!!!

Jazz

Posted on 17-04-2012 17:09 | By donmac

Too many old men playing rock that no one has ever heard of. Where was the real jazz?


Posted on 17-04-2012 16:19 | By traceybjammet

and then they had an outside expensive concert when tect arena is their strange, underused facilities not being used even when its a good idea

Overit

Posted on 17-04-2012 14:58 | By sjones1

I have not been to the Festival for a few years. I loved it when we were packed into bars listening to different bands, not this truck stage set-up.Have lost interest now.

Inevitable

Posted on 17-04-2012 14:45 | By penguin

Some people take a while to get the message. From what used to be a fun-filled 2-3 days with REAL JAZZ, the event has progressively moved into the pop/rock band music format which is not what jazz is all about. The writing was on the wall judging by comments following last year’s even, but those who thought they knew best ploughed on in their short-sighted way. Sadly, some in the community will be out of pocket once again, due to the “we know better” attitude of some individuals. Not surprisingly, reality and common sense has once again returned. Best event this year – the Jubilation Singers!

At Last

Posted on 17-04-2012 14:25 | By Jitter

About time the committee listened to what the public want. Good thinking David. I think it is time Arne Herrman wrote his letter of resignation. It appears that his and some committee members grandiose ideas have been the main cause of the problem. In addition they have no idea of financial planning for such a large function. It appears the bigger the better is the way these people have been thinking. Well sorry but it doesn’t work that way. I look forward to next years sensibly planned festival.

Rastus

Posted on 17-04-2012 14:14 | By rastus

There is no doubt that the present director and his associate artistic director who have run the operation at a loss two years in a row, have both got to withdraw from any further involvement with the jazz festival - it can be good once again as long as the musicians keep faith with the festival committee - who as I understand it are all non paid enthusiastic volunteers, who actually from the experience of the preceding 46 years of operation have demonstrated that they know and understand what jazz is - an aspect sadly lacking in this present professional ’LOL’ organizing team.

Creditors

Posted on 17-04-2012 13:48 | By DRich

Just realised that TCC will be a major credit in this deficit scramble, won’t it, what with all of it’s event staff and sound equipment, baycourt etc. in such demand. Who’s going to underwrite that potential loss of income? Oh, you already know who.

Artist payments

Posted on 17-04-2012 13:31 | By DRich

Oh super, as manager of one very talented and well-patronised jazzfest artist, I have just received a hollow group email basically saying ’gee, thanks for playing, and making the festival - cos, you know, we wouldn’t have much of a music festival without music, after all - and it was all neato, and stuff, but contrary to your contract we can’t pay you till May 20th and maybe even later, if at all, cos you know we have a deficit (cos we wasted our money on a disco band) and it’s all really tuff for us right now but we’ll be strong with your support. Oh, love your work whoever you are, thanks for your patience etc sorry for any inconvenience’. Grrrr. On a positive note, though, thank you David Haig for your beam of hope and sense in all of this.

Loweez

Posted on 17-04-2012 11:50 | By Lois

We found some of the prices a bit steep. For two of us to go it was $100 and we still wanted to go to something else and that was another $80 and we didn’t have the money so we didn’t go.

:-/

Posted on 17-04-2012 11:35 | By CAUTION

You even set up smaller stages down the strand :-/. The only time i heard that there was another jazz eveing was when sunlive writes about it AFTER the event happend. no advertisement, no word of mouth, no nothink. Your useless you complain you loose money when you havent advertised well. pure and utter useless

???

Posted on 17-04-2012 11:28 | By CAUTION

People dont want to pay the stupid prices that they are chargeing. Look at the strand jazz festival on the saturday, free entry, pubs, food, beer. Tauranga has not got the crowd who are willing to pay the price you ask for any more coz your boring them. Tcc needs to buck there ideas up and bring more days out/ family fun days. Your ruining the good fun we use to have back 4 years ago with your boring ideas.

In a Nutshell Really

Posted on 17-04-2012 11:23 | By kiaora2u

Thank you for listening David Haig....I could hug you - This is what people have been saying for at least the last few years. Bring on our National Treasures of talent that we have in NZ....some right here on our own back door step.

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