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With the redevelopment of the Horny Bull site looming, the designer of the new building speaks of regrets at being unable to reach agreement with the Tauranga City Council over Masonic Park.

How the block will look next summer. Picture: Noel Jessop Architecture

The buildings housing The Horny Bull, Como Cucina and Buddha Lounge are expected to be knocked down at the end of the month.

The block, like most of the buildings on The Strand, is considered earthquake prone, requiring work to meet safety standards.

The redevelopment plans for the Horny Bull have gone through two sets of owners.

The Reynolds brothers started it off and then sold to Hamilton developer Terry Scott of Redline Holdings Ltd.

He brought in a new designer, Hamilton based architectural designer Noel Jessop.

Noel does a lot of commercial industrial work and higher end residential.

“Our business quantity-wise is probably larger commercial than it is residential if you look at numbers of projects,” says Noel.

“It’s a good project, and will do something that will hopefully be attractive to Tauranga, and it’s something we want to be proud of as well,” says Noel.

The Horny Bull has re-signed to go back in there and will occupy the same corner beside the Masonic Park. Zaggers Café is another confirmed tenant.

“There is still some space left there,” says Noel.

“We have done a proposal for a small bar at the rear of the site at the west facing rear courtyard and also a courtyard out onto the park.

“It will be quite a good environment, so there is an intention to get another bar type business in there.

“There is also a possibility for an office on the first floor overlooking the park and the strand. It is a fantastic spot.”

The redevelopment of the site has gone through several different versions concerning the new building’s outlook onto the park.

As designed the new building’s south wall is inset from the property boundary to the park to provide access without encroaching on the park.

The council plan for the park in March 2011, Picture TCC.

The Horny Bull’s leased lean-to on the park will be gone with the new building.

“Our approach to the entire project was we wanted to have the building relate to the park and the park relate to the building,” says Noel. 

“We wanted to have that interaction between the two spaces.

“We were discussing quite heavily with council about the merging of the landscaping between the building and the park.”

At the moment there is a clear line between the building and the park, says Noel

“This is the park, this is the building that adjoins the park – there’s no relationship between the two,” says Noel.

He tried to discuss with council staff the possibility of merging the landscaping between the two projects, says Noel.

“And also finding out their proposals for the park so that we could actually follow that through as well, so there was a consistency there and a cohesion between the two properties.”

Those discussions broke down.
“We sat down with landscape architect Darryl Scott and pitched ideas to the council to make the two of them together.

We always wanted to make sure the building had a relationship to the park.

We didn’t want it solely concentrated on The Strand because there was an element there to attract people into the building, so there was definitely a potential retail value to our client. But we thought if the building could relate to the park people can sit there and be involved in it, then it adds value to the park as well, make it a useable space. 

At the moment it just seems to be a thoroughfare.

“I’m not from Tauranga, but from being there and watching how it works just seems to be point A to point B, you don’t really seem to stop.”

The council’s plans for the Masonic Park redevelopment, which involved collecting ideas from a public ‘cake and coffee day’ and the subsequent publication of concept drawings, were shelved late last year because of budget constraints.

The council then offered Redline Holding the option of paying for its own landscape development, as long as council had control.

“So they wanted our client to pay and they wanted to control it,” says Noel.

“They made a few assumptions in their design which they hadn’t consulted our client on, so in the end it got a bit too hard.”

Another view of the council concept as of March 2011 showing a cantilevered Horny Bull building. Picture TCC.

The new building is expected to be completed by November, in time for the 2013-13 summer season.

The Horny Bull rebuild marks the first in an expected flurry of redevelopment along The Strand and owners compare the costs of required strengthening versus rebuilding.

The nearly historic Grumpy Mole saloon on the corner of Harington Street is also marked for demolition as part of a $40 million redevelopment of the block including the neighbouring Bahama Hut, the backpackers and Tauranga City Markets.

Also on the council list of buildings requiring earthquake strengthening work are 83 The Strand, 85 The Strand, and The Crown and Badger at 87.

The Naked Grape at 103 along with neighbouring sites on Wharf Street also require work as do the neighbours the former Saint Amand Hotel now Harbourside City Backpackers at 105 The Strand.

Comments

It begs asking

Posted on 05-02-2012 16:56 | By bigted

Looking at the vague sketches shows that the black objects look like washed up containers from Rena, the building looks like a wharfside building to store them in! Horrid.

What a cheek

Posted on 05-02-2012 12:21 | By Scambuster

Developer simply wants to get access to TCC Masonic reserve to make the planned redevelopment look better = more dollars

No freebies for Strand developer ...

Posted on 05-02-2012 10:00 | By murray.guy

GMaupasante, I suspect your post is more about attacking than debating, but to give you the benefit of the doubt - The Masonic Park has on it’s North and South boundaries solid walls that close in on the Park, a negative if you’re hoping to encourage more use of the green space. The developer was not looking for any ’special treatment, free land or ratepayer subsidy’. If GMaupasante thinks solid walls rather than windows and shop frontage onto the park is preferable, we’ll just have to agree to disagree. This is a commercial development in a very tired commercial zoning and what relevance this has to a supermarket development at Bureta escapes me.

Why

Posted on 05-02-2012 08:44 | By GMaupasante

Murray Guy, why would you want to virtually "give away" part of a ratepayer owned park to a developer for unspecified benefits? How come you call some other councillors greedy? Surely it is the developer who is in pursuit of the dollar, the same dollar you reject when it comes to a developer wanting to turn a booze barn into a supermarket at Bureta? Is this a double-standard? How about selling this land on the Strand to the developer at market rates and reducing council debt? Oh, no I forgot that recently Cr Guy you seem to to have favoured $5 million ratepayer guaranteed money to Baypark. In my opinion it’s hypocritical to vote for a rates cap, then continue the spend-up and not reduce debt.

Still steps?

Posted on 05-02-2012 00:16 | By SML

When will the TCC ever learn they have a rapidly aging, therefore less mobile, population?? With dismay, I note the proposed Masonic "Park" still shows a row of steps as a major mobility barrier between parking spaces in the Willow Street area and the restaurants on the Strand. With the removal of almost all mobility parks, just HOW does TCC expect people in wheelchairs to get about? Especially and specifically, how do wheelchairs negotiate steps on what is a major access point? Maybe the TCC needs to send a few town planners out in wheelchairs to see just how poor access is around the city... hmmm??

But Murray

Posted on 04-02-2012 19:54 | By Jack the Lad

This is the T.C.C we are dealing with here, you know the one with the over staffed, over paid,ratepayer funded joke,so whats new!!!! ooops thats right you are an elected member, and are in a position to do something

How about consistency Cr Guy?

Posted on 04-02-2012 17:11 | By GMaupasante

In an earlier story Murray Guy rails against the possible development of a supermarket where a "booze barn" currently exists. Some criticism of them for being after the dollar. Does he now expect councillors to kowtow to developers on the Strand and virtually give away rights to some of the property us ratepayers worked and paid for, to a developer??? Just what were the mutual benefits? Cr Guy may well have some sort of soft-spot for developers, but most of us ordinary folk don’t, and we don’t always believe unspecified stories about "mutual benefits." If developers want to benefit from ratepayer owned land, then let them offer a commercial price for the lot. It would go some ways to reducing the debt Cr Guy’s council is in. Not that he must be overly worried about debt, considering the $5million to Baypark.

Council's Double Standard

Posted on 04-02-2012 16:16 | By bigted

On one hand the council is happy to gift land away in Durham street on a "good for the city" airy fairy promise, on the other hand, council are hard-nosed with a very visible strand development. This could be the drawcard that the city retailers are wanting. I say SELL the Durham street property to invest in this amenity.

i love the old buildings

Posted on 04-02-2012 15:24 | By traceybjammet

i think the strand is going to get boring and by the way when are the council getting rid of the carpark and building over the water as per gonna plans. this council has got to be the slowest and money and time wasting council in the universe not to mention logic and priorities etc

Walkway

Posted on 04-02-2012 15:11 | By kiaora2u

Those pictures do NOT conjure up pictures of a park to me.....most definitely a walkway.

Not only staff, mostly elected members

Posted on 04-02-2012 10:58 | By murray.guy

... the designer of the new building speaks of regrets at being unable to reach agreement with the Tauranga City Council over Masonic Park ... Join the club. The process and outcome was a b. disgrace, but not on the part of just the staff, ’twas also the outcome of a few greedy elected members. The former owners (The Reynolds) and designers met informally with elected members on site to discuss options that would result in mutual benefits. The matter was then debated by elected members in the chambers and it was elected members who, in my opinion, by majority, got greedy and wanted all the benefits with none of the costs.

Park owned by ratepayers

Posted on 04-02-2012 10:07 | By Gee Really

The neighbouring park is owned by ratepayers and if a developer wants to use it to improve some new development, they should pay just as if it were privately owned. No doubt if a developer approached a private owner to let them use their land, the answer would be come up with a good share of the profits. Ratepayer land shouldn’t be any different. Oops I forgot, the council proposes to "give away" an expensive piece of land in Durham Street for education. But I don’t want to be too negative, the proposed redevelopment of the Strand site should be good without the need for ratepayer input.

Hope they stick to schedule

Posted on 04-02-2012 09:34 | By The Sage

The Horny Bull is my favourite eating spot in town and I’ll be hanging out for it to open again!!

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