Bay Oval bats away criticism

It's just not cricket. And it's inaccurate. That's the Bay Oval Trust general manager Kelvin Jones front footing what he describes as 'begrudging” criticism of plans to install $2.6 million lighting towers for night fixtures at the venue.

'There is no demand, no requirement nor any need,” insisted Rob Paterson of Matapihi in an email to Sun Media.


Lights will allow cricket to be played when it suits the viewing public.

'It will prove to be no use to cricket – in a nutshell, it is a white elephant.”

And that's even before the elephant has ambled into being. The trust is making a pitch for financial help under the council's annual plan.

However, Rob doesn't want the Tauranga City Council, via ratepayers, to provide any future funding for Bay Oval developments.

Rob says Bay Oval will only get two summer holiday matches played in the daytime, during daylight saving, with good attendances. 'Why on earth do you need lights?”

For very good reasons, replies Kelvin.

'Cricket, like any sport, wants to play matches when it suits the viewing public. It's the same reason you don't often see day time Super Rugby matches anymore.”

Kelvin says evening games make it more convenient for spectators coming to the ground, for those at home watching on TV and those watching from overseas.

'And viewing statistics paint a very obvious picture with night games significantly out-rating day games.”

And the Bay Oval general manager says Rob is 'inaccurate”.

NZ Cricket, claims Kelvin, is looking to schedule more and more games at venues with lights. In past seasons the average number of international playing days has been about 22.

Next season that will increase to more than 40. 'Venues with lights will be favoured. And we know NZ Cricket likes the Bay Oval.”

Kelvin says that's because it offers advantages over other venues. It has the equal largest spectator space of all non-stadium venues – on a par with Hagley Oval and bigger than Saxton Oval, University Oval, The Basin Reserve and Seddon Park.

The drainage is the best in the country and the climate offers a longer season, which assists scheduling of games.

Rob also used a Dunedin example to add weight to his argument. 'The Dunedin City Council has turned down a lighting request from the University Oval because it wouldn't stack up.”

'False,” says Kelvin. He says NZ Cricket has offered more matches to a lit University Oval and the DCC has conditionally committed $1.1m to the project if the ground can grow its capacity. Fundraising $750,000 for embankment extensions is underway.

'I would have at least expected some sort of begrudging admiration from Mr Paterson for what the Bay Oval has achieved with so little ratepayer input to date,” says Kelvin.

So far TCC has contributed $543,000 to the development of an asset valued well in excess of $5 million.

'The Oval is a fantastic example of what can be achieved with innovative funding and the council and community working together to create an asset Tauranga can be proud of.”

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11 comments

Absolutely.....

Posted on 11-04-2016 07:48 | By Jimmy Ehu

and categorically not!!!, how about asking the Northern Districts cricket chairman thier stance on this issue, as why would they want thier premier venue sitting empty in Hamilton, 2 X international games per year does not warrant the expenditure, as over the Christmas period that is the only time you would fill Blake Park, how many spectators do you get at a provincial match?, and the Dunedin comparison is stupid as that is the only international venue in the province, stick with what we have and do it well, no lights required and certainly not ratepayer funded!!!.


Sort the basics out first!

Posted on 11-04-2016 08:13 | By Bay Citizen

If you want to "make it more convenient for spectators coming to the ground", then the Bay Oval needs to sort out its parking issues. Simply put, there is none. And nor is there public transport. I attended a Black Caps game there a few months ago, and it was utter chaos. The surly officials offered no help. How can you run a big event in such an ill-prepared way? Compare that to the Rotary organised Easter book sale down the road from the Oval. Parking was plentiful and well run with helpful officials and signage pointing the way. My visit to the Oval left a very bitter taste in my mouth and I'm unlikely to try to go again. Shame on you Oval!


simple really...NO

Posted on 11-04-2016 10:34 | By CC8

You want ratepayers to fund your extra profit? If as you say "It stacks up", Get off your backsides,put your hands back in your pocket instead of out in front of ratepayers and get a loan like any other business does... You have a $5m asset to use a collateral??? . You have already had 540k of ratepayer money , 10% of your estimate of the venue's value... when you asked for that you estimated its value at $2m...


About the figures

Posted on 11-04-2016 10:53 | By Annalist

If TCC has contributed $543,000 then where has the rest come from? Is the value of the land included, because it's a TCC contribution? The real question is how much $ has BOP Cricket put in of its own money? My guess is not a lot?


great venue

Posted on 11-04-2016 12:53 | By rotovend

day/night games would be awesome and I'm thinking public transport as the inner Mount area hasn't much parking but does that mean we don't do anything down that area?? We parked quite easily in the area next door and there is a bus-stop at the gate


Cricket can pay

Posted on 11-04-2016 14:13 | By Annalist

If the demand is truly there, then Bay Cricket can borrow the money and do the lights. Then with all that income from ticket sales and television rights they can easily pay the loan back. But what is more likely to happen is that the ratepayer will cough up, then when the games don't come will be told that we need to pay for the games to be held in Tauranga, a double whammy on the ratepayer. That's my opinion for what it's worth sadly.


We should be thankful...

Posted on 11-04-2016 15:42 | By morepork

...it has "ONLY cost us $540,000" so far? There seems to be an expectation (and cricket is not alone in this) that everybody is entitled to Ratepayer funding, as of right. However much you enjoy cricket (or don't...) it can't do any harm to let it stand on its own two feet for a bit. Kelvin HAS done a good job with the Bay Oval, but it needs to get fundraising rather than begging. I'm with Annalist(Cricket can pay) on this.


Wacko

Posted on 11-04-2016 19:17 | By rosscoo

Probably a shooting star, should of made a wish


@ morepork

Posted on 12-04-2016 17:09 | By Crash test dummies

I believe TCC spent over $800,000 on a car park for cricketers only, don't forget to add that on as well.... Oh there is more, TCC pays for all the grounds to be kept. Who knows what that is costing ratepayers?


@ Annalist

Posted on 12-04-2016 23:36 | By Crash test dummies

The demand is only there for 1-2 games a year if that and only at New Year. The reason that this lot are begging TCC for more free money is that of course it is not viable and never will be. NZ Cricket can not hand over enough games to make it viable either, these events always loose money.


Practical solution

Posted on 12-04-2016 23:39 | By Crash test dummies

There are already lights at Baypark, why not just have the one or two games there at New year, lights are there, parking, all the facilities everything. Why have two sets of the same thing 5 minutes down the road? This Cricket lot obviously want to be pampered and some, wallow in the hard earned money of others and demand it each and every year for more and better toys. Yet nothing is contributed, no monies are raised by the club towards any of this. This is totally self indulgent self gratification, very unacceptable.


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