Call to move Tauranga's waka

A former city councillor and frustrated tour bus operator wants to haul Tauranga's ceremonial waka out of obscurity and place it on The Strand extension where part of the city's culture can be admired.

Te Awanui waka is currently deteriorating under its similarly dilapidated whare waka beside The Strand, tucked away north of the Dive Crescent rail crossing.


Moving the waka is being suggested as an interim measure. Photos: File.

Former city councillor and current tour bus operator Murray Guy says he has to tell his passengers to have their cameras ready as he drives past, because he is not permitted to stop.

'I never understood the reasoning that prohibited me from parking to show tourists our region's waka/war canoe, and to explain the history of it,” says Murray.

'And it's not just that. We do it all around our city. We spent a few million down at the harbour bridge at sulphur point. There's a wonderful cultural component to that second harbour bridge, none of which I can stop at.”

He's referring to the unique Takitimu waka's ceremonial anchor stone and memorial, adjacent to the Mission cemetery and Otamataha pa site.

Murray wants to shift Tauranga's ceremonial waka Te Awanui, as well as whare waka – the canoe's shelter house – onto the strand extension by the boat ramp so more people will be able to see it.

'We have the structure and I have absolutely no doubt that with a little bit of community support, we could move that at no cost to the ratepayer,” he adds.

'It could be done very quickly and efficiently and in time for the cruise ship season.


Murray Guy has suggested moving the waka to a more prominent location, near The Strand's boat ramp.

'The boat ramp is there. The concrete pad is there. Cut it off, put a flatbed truck under it, go 150 metres, drop it on the ground.”

Murray insists he wouldn't move it to that location on a permanent basis, but would fix it temporarily 'until such time as our community could afford to meet their dreams.”

A comprehensive whare waka project involving a two waka shelter and associated carving school for The Strand extension was dropped by council from the Long Term Plan earlier this year.

As Te Awanui is very rarely launched, direct access to the water is not as important as better access for tourists, says Murray. Somewhere near the cargo shed or even the open space beside the Trinity Wharf hotel are alternatives.

Te Awanui was carved in 1973 as a community waka on the request of the then city council which wanted a community waka for ceremonial occasions.

The concept of a ceremonial waka for the city of Tauranga took shape when, prior to the visit of Queen Elizabeth in 1970, the city fathers looked around for such a waka to meet the Royal Yacht Britannia and escort it to moorings.

No such canoe seemed available, and the idea was born of building a waka that would belong to the city and to the people of Tauranga so that, when the need arose, ceremonies could be carried out.


The waka at its current location at the end of The Strand.

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38 comments

Sulphur Pt

Posted on 16-09-2015 12:27 | By hapukafin

Shift it down to Sulphur Pt where the Waka Village is


Wasting more money on Murray...

Posted on 16-09-2015 14:57 | By The Commentor

You are no longer a counsellor, so perhaps it's time to leave the public purse alone and stop trying to use it for personal gain. Shifting it anywhere will no doubt require the usual amount of hoo ha and inefficient use of public money. Leave it where it is.


Just do it TCC

Posted on 16-09-2015 15:01 | By dgk

Some real culture, rather than that horrendous plastic imitation. TCC should stop hiding this away in a corner and get it on display.


Good idea..

Posted on 16-09-2015 15:24 | By Me again

I have had friend here in Tauranga from oversea and they ask the question, Why do we hide our heritage in a corner where tourist on their own would probably never go, But they will see wakas in Rotorua or somewhere else. No wonder tourist, visitors don't stick around in Tauranga when things like the waka are hiddewn.


Mr Murray....

Posted on 16-09-2015 15:30 | By sambo's back

this time you have surpassed yourself!!!!, when you where an elected Council member did you not drive ratepayer money into an "Historic" walkway/trail from the top end of the strand..... leave the bloody Waka where it is, give it some light and tart it up, then get funds spent on doing up the track up and around the "rose gardens", the little "edifices" people are building themselves on the Strand reclamation!!!!!is one thing, but Taurangas history starts from the top end of the strand, leave it where it is, or put it in the "possible" cultural centre mooted for the old bowling greens, include a museum,and then maybe "mainstreets" boat people figures will actually have something to visit, then Murray maybe your track to nowhere may have a little substance and the money you spent would not be for nothing.


Money

Posted on 16-09-2015 16:25 | By spikeredmires

'm sure the council will have some money left after the $500 it must have cost the Tax Payer to turn Wharf street into an eye sore.


@ Murray

Posted on 16-09-2015 17:03 | By flipper

Could you not fix your problem cheaper by simply putting a Bus Stop on the road outside the existing location? That way tour buses could stop there and the space still wouldn't be filled with cars parking there.


Open it Up

Posted on 16-09-2015 17:28 | By Tumeke Tauranga

Let's also make it more interactive by opening up the gates so people can touch it like at Waitangi. Then close the gates at night when the normal park gates around the city are closed to prevent vandalism. That would be a more interactive display than just looking at it through the wire mesh.


Murray and the tour operators can pay??

Posted on 16-09-2015 17:39 | By Annalist

I'd have no problem with Murray Guy and his tour operator friends paying to move this, not ratepayers. I believe that all commercial properties in Tauranga pay rates some of which go to promoting tourism. Wouldn't all businesses love to be promoted from rates? Anyway, that said anyone walking near the historic Sunlive building and up through the redoubt, passes the waka. I think the location is fine for those prepared to wander around rather than just occupy their comfortable tour bus seats.


Flipper ...

Posted on 16-09-2015 17:47 | By Murray.Guy

Flipper, the present location is close to the railway line on a tight bend. No way suitable for a bus stop. There is an existing stop used by cruise ship day tour coaches outside the Cargo Shed so this location next to the water has a lot going for it. Add value to the CBD entry, to the Cargo Shed and utilises an existing bus park. the cruise ship tour groups are generally short on time so the fewer the stops the better. To The Commentor, seek help!


Why not do this when he was a councillor?

Posted on 16-09-2015 18:21 | By Councillorwatch

I'm puzzled as to why Murray now suggests moving the waka. Wondering why he didn't move this during the years he was a councillor? In the story Murray says "I never understood the reasoning that prohibited me from parking to show tourists our region's waka. . ." But in his reply to Flipper he says the current location is "No way suitable for a bus stop." Well I guess he's now explained to himself the reason for prohibiting parking.


NO

Posted on 16-09-2015 21:19 | By sambro

NO


Again

Posted on 17-09-2015 07:26 | By fletch

I don't care where you put it as long as I don't have to pay to move it


Do you people not read

Posted on 17-09-2015 07:51 | By astex

BEFORE you start your "ratepayer money rants"? I think this is a great idea and at no stage did Murray mention the ratepayers paying anything.


Maymingle

Posted on 17-09-2015 09:40 | By Maymingle

I think it is a great idea! Maybe if it was in a position of prominence it would have be looked after a lot better. The Waka whare and Te Awanui have been allowed to deteriorate and while I don


Waste

Posted on 17-09-2015 10:11 | By RawPrawn

It's sat there doing virtually nothing for over 40 years? How about actually USING it - like maybe to greet arriving cruise ships over summer. That'd give the tourists something they don't get elsewhere


A Gift to the City

Posted on 17-09-2015 10:16 | By Colleen Spiro

This waka deserves to be seen, touched, utilised as it was intended. As for vandalism I have never seen any on the Pou that are installed around the city, nor on other great works of Art, such as Murals It would be great if it was closer to the water, and brought out of the shadows. http://tauranga.kete.net.nz/tauranga_local_history/topics/show/1589


Who Cares?

Posted on 17-09-2015 11:06 | By Mackka

Look at the state of the Waka. If the owners really cared about the thing, why have they let it degenerate to its present condition? All talk - no do. Don't use a cent of ratepayers money on moving it anywhere as we'll be liable for its upkeep for ever more!


Mackka

Posted on 18-09-2015 07:07 | By astex

No ratepayers money has been mentioned. Read the article properly before assuming things. I think if a like minded group got together this could be done and would be a great addition to the strand.


'iknow'

Posted on 18-09-2015 08:18 | By Mackka

In the unlikely event that a "like minded group" do actually get together to move the waka - will this same group continue with its upkeep in the years to come? One would think that if they cared that much about it, then they would be doing something about the disgusting condition to which the waka has been allowed to 'sink'! I know too! We all do!


Waka Upkeep

Posted on 18-09-2015 15:50 | By Jitter

What's all the fuss about.?The upkeep of this building and craft are already paid for by TCC. As I understand the situation the waka is owned by TCC so ratepayers would have to pay to move it anyway. As it is part of Maori culture I would have thought that local Maori would have been keen to assist keeping it, it's shelter and surrounding area up to scratch. But then again perhaps not.


Jitter

Posted on 20-09-2015 16:32 | By Plonker

I think you will find that the answer there is clearly "no".


Waka Upkeep

Posted on 20-09-2015 16:36 | By Plonker

The lean to and grounds look fine, the paddle boat itself looks to be well ok, but in need of a slap up coat of paint, that is about all.


To Plonker

Posted on 22-09-2015 14:16 | By Jitter

To which part of my comment are you saying "NO to ? Why not put it in the Art Gallery foyer as a permanent exhibit as it is rarely used ? Or move it to the Historic Village.


Plonkers

Posted on 23-09-2015 10:38 | By robin bell

as usual. Plonker wants not one penny of his money spent on the Waka but is very "vocal" on the subject. Murray Guy makes a good point,It's in the wrong place,for heaps of reasons. Jitter is confused, Council commissioned it,they own it. Ask this question, why would local Maori volunteer to maintain it,knowing the insulting reaction it would bring from the usual culprits, when they ask for a can of paint from the owners? Time you all grew up. Robin Bell.


Really!!!

Posted on 23-09-2015 14:12 | By So

It will never be done cheaply, quickly or efficiently if it involves council and the other interested parties.


Jitter #2

Posted on 23-09-2015 14:19 | By Plonker

The answer there is rather simple ... being a "No", it is in response to "As it is part of Maori culture I would have thought that local Maori would have been keen to assist keeping it, it's shelter and surrounding area up to scratch. ". The answer to that is clearly "NO".


To Robin Bell

Posted on 29-09-2015 14:45 | By Jitter

If I recall correctly when TCC decided to chop $300,000 from the budget for a new building on the waterfront to rehouse the waka it was local iwi who kicked up a stink about this. I know it belongs to and was commissioned by TCC but I naively thought that local iwi would be interested in helping to maintain it. I'm obviously wrong again.


Jitter

Posted on 30-09-2015 13:44 | By Plonker

Sadly you are wrong, however if there was a gravy train of cash flowing out of TCC to do it hen all the moaning would start, all would be in on it. The decisions here are being made on a cash available basis, not about heritage, history and the likes.


Reloation?

Posted on 30-09-2015 14:57 | By Plonker

I can't see what will be achieved by that, other that wasting millions, like that there has not been enough of that by TCC already. The concrete beach that is the Strand waterfront is not exactly inviting to beach/sea/surf loving visitors and residents alike. Leave where it is, if IWI want to clean it up then let them do it. If not "walk away".


Bigger picture

Posted on 01-10-2015 13:25 | By TJ

The waka is a very short walk from the Cargo shed, and also on the way to the Monmouth Redoubt, and other things to look at on the Strand. It certainly looks sad though, in need of a spruce up.


Stop whining whinging bleating and griping

Posted on 04-10-2015 11:27 | By ROCCO

The thing is fine where it is it simply needs to be maintained by its owners and currently the care provided is pathetic. Instead of mouthing off at HQ 20 metres across the road waddle across to the canoe and provide some TLC. The housing needs maintenance as does the canoe itself.


Maori apathy

Posted on 04-10-2015 14:03 | By Mackka

You'd think that if iwi really cared a fig about the waka then they would get their A's into G and get the thing cleaned up to be something they could be proud about. After all why should anyone else care?!


Mackka

Posted on 06-10-2015 11:33 | By Plonker

Not owned by IWI, it is owned by TCC, but you would still have though that a little community spirit would prevail somewhere sometime?


Waka move it for?

Posted on 06-10-2015 15:49 | By Plonker

Does not seem any good reason other than walking a few paces more...


Waka U doing?

Posted on 06-10-2015 17:44 | By Plonker

here, this should all look a lot better than this but no need to move it anywhere.


Waka getting old?

Posted on 13-10-2015 17:06 | By Plonker

Well maybe time to send it packing, has not been used in some 30 years or something so would all seem to be a complete waste on anyone's time even thinking about this.


OH BY THE WAY PEOPLE

Posted on 15-10-2015 18:57 | By ROCCO

The waka at Rotorua the spiritual home of local maoridom is housed on the Lake edge in exactly the same type of shed.It is much the same at Waitangi so it must be an approved template. Just leave it as it is get off your artz and give the thing and its surrounds some TLC.


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