Concerns grow over council spray

Roundup's long reign as the undisputed king of weed killers could be coming to an end in Tauranga as the city council considers trialing replacements.

The decision surrounds Roundup's controversial main ingredient glyphosate, which is alleged to be the cause of various chronic diseases and is currently banned in a number of countries.


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In a meeting this afternoon, the council's Strategy and Policy committee considered a trial of pine oil and fatty acid, containing agrichemicals, as an alternative to glyphosate on selected walkways and neighbourhood reserves.

The committee is also being asked to revive the use of steam as an alternative – a practice that was previously trialled in Tauranga city in 2001.

Glyphosate is the most commonly used agrichemical across council land, and according to staff reports it is known to cause cancer in animals. There is also alleged evidence to suggest it causes cancer in humans.

Researchers have also implied its involvement in birth defects, reduced fertility in men and breast cancer as well as a range of other chronic diseases. It is also considered to be more environmentally toxic than previously claimed.

New Zealand's Environment Protection Agency may reassess the use of glyphosate at a national level, says the report, which would force the council to change vegetation management in the near future.

The dilemma facing the council, however, is that glyphosate is the cheapest and most broadly effective agrichemical on the market. It kills most plants entirely, while less toxic alternatives, are far less effective.

An estimated cost of all council glyphosate use in 2014 is around $200,000, which includes product and labour of knapsack spraying at average dilution rates.

Removing it from their spray schedule would also increase the cost of vegetation management in parks, sports fields, stormwater reserves, and road berms, which staff say cannot be done immediately within current budgets.

Glyphosate has been legislatively banned in El Salvador, banned from importation into Sri Lanka and Bermuda, banned for non-commercial use in the Netheriands, and is under consideration in Brazil.

The French Minister for Ecology has ordered glyphosate products removed from retailers' shelves in France by January 2016, while actions have been taken by governments and large corporations in Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, Mexico, Russia, and Colombia.

Both the European Union and the US Environmental Protection Agency are conducting a review of glyphosate.

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23 comments

Facts wrong

Posted on 14-09-2015 15:04 | By Croaky

Some misreporting here - council will be looking closely at HOT WATER treatment, NOT steam. Hot water is much more cost-effective; costwise on a par with glyphosate-based spraying regimes. Anyway, the stuff is horrifically toxic and its use needs to be stopped, whatever the cost.


bryrose

Posted on 14-09-2015 15:08 | By bryrose

Its about time New Zealand banned these very toxic weed killers and sprays.The alternates might be more expensive but health wise for humans and animals these would be much better.


How about

Posted on 14-09-2015 15:45 | By Capt_Kaveman

Chlorine next from our water supply


Cost of Non-chemical alternatives

Posted on 14-09-2015 15:51 | By ronillian

The message is coming through loud and clear that HOT WATER technology (as opposed to steam : the 2 technologies are miles apart in efficacy and cost! Don't confuse them) is just as cheap as toxic glyphosate weedkillers and has been used SUCCESSFULLY and ECONOMICALLY in areas of Auckland for over 20 years... for the same cost or cheaper than Roundup. Now that the WHO has recategorised glyphosate as "PROBABLY CARCINOGENIC to humans" and there's a heap of evidence of major other health diseases caused by it, why would you NOT stop Roundup etc??? A no-brainer!


KEEP COSTS DOWN TO RATEPAYERS

Posted on 14-09-2015 16:00 | By Watcher 1

Personally I have been exposed directly to and used Agrochemicals ALL my life. I did some of the original trial work involving Glyphosate back in the very early 80s, I'm nearly 70 years in good health and still using it. By friend and old business partner possibly sprayed more 245T and Glyphosate than most passed away only last year aged over 90years of natural causes, he had yearly medical tests for cancer or spray caused problems. Even 245T used on its OWN was reasonably safe BUT NOT when mixed with Ancient Orange in the War Years. I seriously question as to why Council would even consider returning to steam? Plants nodded off for a tempory sleep and then sprung to life again and ratepayers were faced with hefty costs. To make Chemicals use safer,why not ensure contractors use Drift Control agents. DO NOT BURDEN RATEPAYERS with ineffective STEAM COSTS


Steam??? NOT!!!

Posted on 14-09-2015 16:19 | By ronillian

The cost-effective weed control that has been used in Auckland for 20 years+ is NOT high pressure STEAM. Hot water weed control is as cheap as chemical control, as effective, and NOT toxic. Important to get this message across: yes, both use water but are different technologies!! And TCC should not be using a cancer-causing agent when there are just-as-cheap, effective alternatives available and IN USE.


Alas Watcher 1

Posted on 14-09-2015 16:20 | By Croaky

Hundreds of independent scientists would disagree with you. Of course it is possible to work with an agrichemical for years and not be affected by it - you've been very lucky My friend was not so lucky - she died of breast cancer some years after major use of Roundup and was absolutely convinced this was the cause. And no, the council is not, as I mentioned above, not looking at steam but the highly cost-effective and efficient HOT WATER method successfully used in Auckland's North Shore for well over 20 years, at similar cost to Roundup and other glyphosate-based chemicals.


get real

Posted on 14-09-2015 17:54 | By ratepayer

noting that most comments relate to poisoning by Roundup ,how are people being poisoned ? drift--poor application rolling in it when its wet--don't do it, paranoia ---take a chill pill hot water is as effective ,rubbish onehunga weed in your parks prickles in your feet ,no solution other than chemical ,safe as as long as you don't roll in it ,that's what signs are for ,or just complain to the council with out any real solutions


Been tried

Posted on 14-09-2015 17:57 | By peter pan

Hot water has been tried in Tauranga and was a waste of time and money.If roundup was as bad as the anti everything mob say it is .I should be dead.i`m 76 and still spraying and the weeds hate me.


Overit

Posted on 14-09-2015 18:51 | By overit

I am all for TCC ceasing to use this spray. Come on its the 21st Century, lets get smarter and give Nature a break. I heard a quote the other day,"humans get so much out of Nature, but give little back".Stop saturating our environment with poisons.No wonder bees are getting sick. I wonder about the water quality of our streams around here too. Planet Earth sustains us, respect her.


Hypocrasy

Posted on 14-09-2015 19:14 | By highlander

So we can use Hi-Cane, Paraquat and Mezarol on food crops (all highly toxic) but don't want to use Glyo on weeds. Sound backwards?


Bollocks

Posted on 14-09-2015 19:20 | By peecee09

I have been using roundup for 50 years. I am 71 , had a medical last week and the Doc said I was in very good health. Just get over it.


Here we go again!

Posted on 14-09-2015 21:55 | By How about this view!

alleged to be, according to staff reports, implied its involvement, also considered to be????? We have the "I know best" brigade trying to justify their position without FACTS. NOT A SINGLE FACTUAL STATEMENT anywhere, just supposition and conjecture once again. No doubt these are the same idiots that KNOW what's being discussed in the TPPA negotiations as well!


Costs

Posted on 14-09-2015 22:14 | By gforce

Hot water will not work long term on weeds, and be useless around water ways too. Fatty acids and pine oils are a very expensive way to go and I urge the council to consider this, I now because I have used them on my orchard and the weeds controlled need to be visited on a regular basis, and the product cost is way over the top.


Precaution rules

Posted on 14-09-2015 22:48 | By IanM

RoundUp was first produced in 1974, so nobody can have used it for 50 years. The line "I have used it for xx time...and I'm ok" has been used in relation to many toxic chemicals. The Curies said the same when working with radiation. There were people sprayed in Vietnam with Agent Orange who did not die for decades. But the deformities in children are still appearing 2-3 generations later. The salesman who used to drink DDT survived a full 5 years. The toxic effects of chemicals in our food and environment will only be felt by some of us, and may take decades to be expressed. That does not make it ok.


Is it the Glyphosate?

Posted on 15-09-2015 07:16 | By SonnyJim

I was under the impression that Glyphosate was OK, BUT it was nasty impurities within it that was the problem - some brands purer than others. Is this right? (Conspiracy theorists please stay under your rocks!)


IanM

Posted on 16-09-2015 20:44 | By Kenworthlogger

Glyphosate was invented in 1970 so 45 years is close enough...


IanM

Posted on 22-09-2015 11:52 | By Plonker

So you admit it is not 50 years, it cant be right?


Ratepayer

Posted on 22-09-2015 11:54 | By Plonker

The real issues are: It is bad for weeds and people if you get sprayed with it. There are affects from it. Simple solution, don't spray yourself, if you cant manage that, then wear a suit, it is called preventative rather than moaning mode.


Whiners

Posted on 23-09-2015 14:20 | By So

Instead of whinging and whining about the use of sprays those individuals would be far better off, and probably healthier, if they put the effort to investigating more suitable, yet economical solutions.


@ So

Posted on 30-09-2015 13:46 | By Plonker

The most economical (cost to ratepayers) is spraying as now. Every other option costs more, less effective, i.e. more Council staff and less other weeds killed.


Moaners

Posted on 07-10-2015 09:29 | By Kenworthlogger

The moaners should be mire concerned that they have to pay for 2 bumper trucks which sit behind the truck spraying the roundup.


Moaners #2

Posted on 13-10-2015 17:08 | By Plonker

Agree on that, the whole thing is ridiculous that, 10 guys sitting in three vehicles and only one guy spraying anything and that is only for part of the day. just complete crazy and over the top waste all round.


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