Internet outage raises questions

A cascade of power failures left internet users across Tauranga without service for around three hours on Sunday afternoon.

The fault, at Chorus' Cameron Road exchange, effected all fibre providers, says Full Flavour Ltd ultra-fast broadband manager Jesse Archer.


The Cameron Road exchange where the fault occurred. Photo: File.

It is believed to be the first time such an outage has occurred in Tauranga, and according to Jesse, it highlights a glaring weakness in Tauranga's telecommunications network.

'If a bomb were to strike the exchange in Cameron Road, the city's communications would be off for days if not weeks,” he says.

'It is like a single point of failure for the city.

'There's a room in that building where all telco providers, including our network, Spark, Vodafone and Trust Power, have their equipment. Basically, the power failed to everyone's equipment in that room including Ultra-Fast Fibre.”

Power to the room in question is understood to have been completely lost, meaning an outage for fibre customers across the city, with equipment showing a loss of signal.

'At the exchange, there is supposed to be an A+B power feed,” explains Jesse. 'That means if the A power feed fails for some reason, there is a back-up.

'There's a unit called a rectifier, which changes AC power to DC power to go into some batteries. It was a rectifier, one of eight, that failed.

'That caused a surge upstream to some sort of AC breaker that then tripped and cut the power for both A feed and B feed.”

Full Flavour Ltd have since asked Chorus why the battery backup didn't provide sufficient power between the time the rectifier failed and the electrician's arrival to resolve the issue.

They have also asked why was there no electrician available in Tauranga.

'We had to wait an hour for an electrician to come from Rotorua,” says Jesse. 'It was a three-hour outage and it might have only been a two hour outage. A technician from Tauranga could have got in there at the same time as we did.”

Providers such as Full Flavour, Ultrafast Fibre, 2degrees, Vodafone and others had staff attending the incident within 15 minutes of it occurring, he adds.

When contacted by SunLive regarding the outage, Chorus communications manager Nathan Beaumont said: 'We had a fault on our network yesterday which meant more than 1600 households were without services for about two hours.

'Chorus apologises to those impacted by the outage.

'Our first priority was to ensure the network got back up and running as quickly as possible. Now that that has happened, we are now investigating what why the fault happened and what we can do to ensure it doesn't happen again.”

Full Flavour is a local, ultra-fast broadband provider with its core network in the Chorus Exchange.

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33 comments

Shouldn't happen

Posted on 14-09-2015 12:31 | By The Sage

This outage also took my Mother's phone out. Not good enough, she is elderly.


MTE

Posted on 14-09-2015 12:47 | By JJ7

No internet and no phone for me and no phone for my elderly mother - not sure if their personal alarms still work when this happens Ultra fast keeps stopping all the time - kinect not good enough


No service is always 100%

Posted on 14-09-2015 12:53 | By tish

and phone service never have been foolproof anyway. The elderly, infirm or vulnerable should have a cheap cellphone with 111 and an emergency contact number with instructions easily found for such times as their phone goes out, if they can manage. It might not be ideal but it's common sense and it's up to families to step up and make decent contingency plans for their people who have extra needs.


broadband outage

Posted on 14-09-2015 13:03 | By mlangdon

No this shouldnt happen, also took our phone out and I would guess many others, I was also disappointed at the lack of information from SPARK whom I rang twice and they were 'getting back to me' but never did. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.


A Bigger Problem Was Lack of Information

Posted on 14-09-2015 13:35 | By tabatha

I rang Spark at 4.58 p.m. and was told one hour to and hour and half they would get back to me. Two hours later had a phone call. Their dreadful voice activated system is long something out of the Ark and have mentioned this before. In a case like this you should be able to dial in and press a number and get a result. Trustpower have system like this and surely a teleco can do the same. Was worried modem had broken as got warnings that Yahoo was dangerous etc. Come on the person who designed the system to put their hand up and say yes we are a communications firm and we do not provide prompt efficient service like has happened in the past.


What's worse!

Posted on 14-09-2015 14:04 | By The author of this comment has been removed.

Using my cellphone I tried calling spark, naturally thinking I was the only one effected, I waited one and a half hours to be answered! Surely a voice recording could have been set up advising of the outage. 0/10 marks.


Cell phones are only good as the coverage area

Posted on 14-09-2015 14:13 | By The Sage

There is a black spot in the street my Mother lives in, even though it is well in the city limits. You would think with all the towers around the place that Vodafone would have their act together. She has to go outside and stand on the road for her cell phone to work.


Judging by...

Posted on 14-09-2015 14:25 | By penguin

...the number of electricians vans in Tauranga, one could assume that we are knee-deep in electricians. It


Lack of information

Posted on 14-09-2015 15:33 | By bones-07

There was a lack of information from several providers by the sound of things. I am with Flip and both home line and adsl internet were down for over 3 hours. Nothing on their Facebook page or website to inform people of what was happening. I waited for over and an hour on hold to try and find out what was going on. I know things like this do happen, just as the power goes out, etc. But informing your customers is extremely important in my opinion.


What a bunch of whingers

Posted on 14-09-2015 15:53 | By fearlessfanatic

Seriously people, phone lines and power will go down from time to time. You need to stop whinging and put plans in place for yourself and elderly family if these situations happen. It was only 3 hours! If this is all you have to complain about count yourself lucky.


Unhappy

Posted on 14-09-2015 16:01 | By Margaret Butler

Thank goodness for a cellphone at a time like this. I got a call from a dear friend from out of town visiting here to say that her husband had been taken to Tauranga Hospital and wanting our support. Landline not working, 3 hours was just not on.


Fibre outage

Posted on 14-09-2015 16:39 | By rayf

One of the downsides of the new Fibre connection seems to be the ommission of a battery backup system for our land lines, as we had with former Telecom connections. Power goes off, anywhere, at home or, as in this case, the Fibre Exchange, no telephone connection nor Internet! I don't think that this possible situation was fully explained (and not to me) when I changed over to Fibre Optic connection!!!


Text us please..

Posted on 14-09-2015 16:41 | By Onc

That saves moving furniture to check wires and turn off and on components from the OTP before ringing the service provider and waiting for a call back. I will make that suggestion to my supplier but it's pretty basic stuff.


Vodafone

Posted on 14-09-2015 17:01 | By bexcoz

I rang Vodafone after my internet had been down for over an our and was lucky that I didn't have to wait long for them to answer but they were trying to tell me it was my modem...they weren't even aware that that there was an issue i had to tell them....pretty shocking for a telecommunications company!


Bexcoz

Posted on 14-09-2015 17:21 | By Silent Lambs

They always blame the consumer first, standard phone pool response, that means you wll wonder off and look for a few hours, then with luck they figue that they have figure out the real reason and sort it before you call back. Sounds cynical, it is in there little book of words on stock standard answers.


Now 6pm 14.09.2015

Posted on 14-09-2015 18:02 | By theschizzle

Who is reimbursing the losses for the businesses in town. It's not just Spark, everything is down. Cell coverage is all there is, and that's sporadic, probably because everyone's had to resort to it. This has been going on since yesterday. What the hell is going on out there?


no internet.

Posted on 14-09-2015 18:06 | By peter pan

I can see the problem with business but surely not a major with the general public.It brings you down to earth and you have to talk to one another.


@fearlessfanatic

Posted on 14-09-2015 18:10 | By tabatha

I think the biggest problem was not the lack of use but lack of information as it was in my case. I was worried my modem had failed because that was the information my computer was displaying. As people have said there was a need to get information, if we have a power failure it is easy to get that information.


honesty

Posted on 14-09-2015 19:06 | By rosscoo

It wasn't the 3 hour outage that was problem. I dislike been lied to by my provider about what problem was. Even if they did not know just say so or give true reason if known rather than beating round bush wanting to check our system trying to blame customer. All I ask is be honest about problem.


Quick solution

Posted on 14-09-2015 19:47 | By rosbo

Write to your ISP attention CEO (get is name on Google). You will get a reply from him or his PA. Either will give you the straight oil.


Lack of informed information

Posted on 14-09-2015 21:11 | By The Sage

I am so pleased I haven't been sucked in by any of these sales people peddling the fibre optic deals with Kinect and others. They are ill informed. The phone line of several people I knownhas gone out and the people in the call centre are ill informed. To cap it off, when you are hanging off the end of a cell phone, trying to get hold of someone and the cell phone reception is poor, it is diabolical. On the plus side the ultra fast broadband speed has increased now that so many people have switched to fibre optic. I will be sticking with what I have, the whole service and lack of information is extremely poor.


Wow.

Posted on 15-09-2015 01:12 | By keepitgreen

I see the country's entire population still using a landline is out in force complaning about this. Get a grip, things happen, life goes on c'est la vie.


Internet supposed to be resilient

Posted on 15-09-2015 02:42 | By Wizardling

So much for the internet being designed as a distributed network with no single point of failure to cripple access. Clearly Chorus have designed a system that can fail at a single point!


Penguin

Posted on 15-09-2015 03:15 | By Kenworthlogger

What is the point of a back up generator at the broadband exchange in a power failure when your house wont have any power so you you wont be able to use internet anyway??


outage

Posted on 15-09-2015 08:33 | By dumbkof2

Oh shock horror. We had to do without internet for 3 hours. Whatever shall we do. Mabee we should go back to talking to each other again


An Hour Wait

Posted on 15-09-2015 09:36 | By Merlin

I spent an hour on the phone with a Vodafone technician resetting my Modem several time trying to solve the problem and he went away to talk others to be told after an hour there was an outage.Their message did not give any outage and I have read all the Internet providers went to the exchange almost straight away.How frustrating is that and I did not like the music they played anyway.Needs some better communication I think.


outage

Posted on 15-09-2015 10:26 | By dumbkof2

Mabee everyone should join trust power. Rang them and was told straight away what the problem was. Couldnt be better service


We lost ours

Posted on 15-09-2015 13:21 | By NZgirl

So I went and spoken with the family while the internet was out. You know what they not a bad bunch after all.


Outage

Posted on 15-09-2015 13:34 | By Rate1

Well my ISP (Orcon) did correctly inform me of the power outage issue, after waiting on my mobile for 15mins. But once I knew of the problem - it was no big deal..3 hrs is nothing..being Sunday afternoon, it was a good time to have a wee kip.


I don't know why anyone

Posted on 15-09-2015 21:02 | By astex

had a problem with Vodafone. I called them, pressed 2 for fixed line etc, pressed again for technical assistance and then pressed the number for known faults. Had an answer, via recorded message, within 20 seconds of dialing the number. Well done Vodafone.


Back Up

Posted on 16-09-2015 14:48 | By Frostbite

The problem with the new fibre system is that there is no battery back. Unlike the old copper system. On the copper system even when there was a power failure you could still use the land line which is vital in a emergency.


New vs old

Posted on 18-09-2015 17:56 | By Plonker

Is not always better, add to that the lack of interest by local electricians in the support services, anyway who cares we should all be outside enjoying the lovely weather, beaches and all that right.


Sounds like

Posted on 19-09-2015 11:10 | By Kenworthlogger

Too many people with too much free time on their hands and no life.....


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