Fence slipping from property

Tracking mud across Tauranga City Council office is Naiomi Macbeth's way of making a point about council inaction over her subsiding section.

The builder owning the neighbouring section cut the ground away beside her boundary fence in June. The land subsided and now the fence is about to fall down a three metre drop, taking her garden with it.


Naiomi Macbeth says the council is ignoring her complaint that her backyard is starting to disappear.

'Repeated calls to the council have resulted in nothing happening,” says Naiomi.

She arranged council engineers to meet her solicitor on site and they cancelled, without notifying her solicitor.

She's made repeated calls over recent Fridays only to be told staff were in meetings and they would get back to her, but they didn't.

She's called council inspectors, OSH and worksafe, all of whom have failed to act to either stop the process or compel the builder to repair the damage, she says.

Over the last four months she's watched as the land below her boundary fence has fallen away to where the fence posts' concrete footings are exposed and the fence itself is beginning to move.

Thing's came to a head this Friday when Naomi discovered a hole on her side of the fence, over a three metre drop. She's lost a swan plant and the Japanese Irises are threatened.

After discovering the hole in her land, Naomi called the council five times on Friday and was fobbed off each time. The people were in meetings, no one was able to talk, Naomi was repeatedly told.

'I'm fed up. Why should I have to spend my time and my money, when he (the builder) is the bad guy. Nobody knows about me. But it's gone too far now.”

Tracking muddy gumboots across the city carpet and loudly demanding to speak to someone got her 15 minutes with Kirsty Downey, the city council manager, legal and governance.

'She's the first one to apologise to me,” says Naiomi.

But there is still no action. Naiomi was told another council engineer was going to inspect the site.

'But they are going to get back to me.”

Naiomi says the builder began earthworks on the neighbouring section in June, but didn't have a building permit for the work until July.

The law says earthworks have to be retained within three months of the digging, which Naiomi says was last month. She accuses the city building inspectors of overlooking the non-permitted start and delaying investigating her complaint until heavy rain made it too late.

'The builder said he would fix it, but won't put a date to it,” says Naomi.

'I can't even find him.”

SunLive approached Tauranga City Council communications staff on Thursday about Naiomi's concerns.

The reply received Friday afternoon at 3.25pm statedis: 'It is misleading to suggest that TCC has not been enforcing the rules. A building consent has been issued for the property and staff have spent a lot of time onsite investigating the complainant's concerns.”

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34 comments

This is

Posted on 05-09-2015 09:03 | By Capt_Kaveman

why i believe in not only replacing the councilors but their useless staff, roll on election


Noooooooo

Posted on 05-09-2015 10:07 | By Bop man

Not the swan plant.........


Disgusting service.

Posted on 05-09-2015 10:18 | By penguin

There is absolutely no excuse for this situation to have arisen. It simply shows ineptitude by council officers and a total lack of empathy for Naomi's plight. I trust her solicitor is preparing papers for a damages claim against the council. And the rest of us are paying for this incompetence through our rates. To add to this is the weak 'statement' issued to Sunlive by the council's communications (or lack of), staff! Disgusting!


unsurprising

Posted on 05-09-2015 10:48 | By mattbz

Pathetic reply from the council, not that that should surprise anyone. Should name and shame the builder also.


How??

Posted on 05-09-2015 11:45 | By Calm Gully

How can anyone possibly dig that out so close to the boundary and leave it like that, it is dangerous and damaging. Is it a house site? The builder and council should be ashamed. FIX IT NOW! Council will have to cover solicitors fees (how rude not turning up) :(


mattbz is the only one making sense

Posted on 05-09-2015 11:56 | By How about this view!

THE BUILDER is at fault and should be explaining himself to the council and adjacent landowner. Using a lawyer to bring this cowboy to the small claims court would have been a better use of your time and money Mrs McBeth.


Avr

Posted on 05-09-2015 12:41 | By Anton

The bracing of the fence is absolute ridiculous. The first handyman would do a much better job. I just got my rates bill ,SHOCKING.


Council

Posted on 05-09-2015 13:07 | By Dianne Hodge

The council is too busy harrassing other people who are within the law because stupid old men keep ringing them and the police about fences (not even illegal)


Feeling sorry for Naomi

Posted on 05-09-2015 14:09 | By s83cruiser

The council offices are not only infected by toxic mould but toxic attitudes as well. I feel for Naomi as she is experiencing first hand the don't give a stuff attitude that is endemic within the council...What she doesn't get is that we are there to serve them. The term PUBLIC SERVANTS doesn't mean a thing in the TCC sub-continent. . TCC is a law unto themselves who do as they please when they please and at their own snail like pace...Submit a building plan for consent Naomi and see how you get on. The RMA (law of the land) says that the TCC and all other councils shall process building consents within 20 working days. Mine have been in council since 26/07/015 and are still as yet un-processed.You do the math. TCC glide time when it suites them and stuff the population of the city paying their salaries.


Not always council's fault

Posted on 05-09-2015 14:26 | By BullShtAlert

Why does a dispute between neighbours have to involve our rates money being used to sort it out? Surely the complainant would just use a lawyer and take the matter to court. Costs could then be awarded once fault, blame or whatever else is decided by the court. Leave the Council out of it.


fred

Posted on 05-09-2015 15:19 | By Alan

sounds like Fair Go material


seesee

Posted on 05-09-2015 17:29 | By SeeSee

this is absolutely shocking, this good lady being taken advantage of by the neighbour without legal permission and now the Council who are not facing up to doing their job as required by law. Disgraceful, absolutely disgraceful


What you could do.

Posted on 05-09-2015 17:37 | By Mag11

Council will tell you it is a civil matter. The Solicitor will give you lots of platitudes and a Bill. I suggest you take a caveat on the property thus blocking all work until matter resolved. Call thee Dept. of Labour for unsafe working site.


Not the Council's fault??

Posted on 05-09-2015 18:38 | By Bronzewing

They issue the consent and conditions for the construction, they charge large fees for inspecting the work. If the staff doing the inspection are monitoring the consent conditions and can't see what has happened is not correct then either they are incompetent or couldn't give a stuff. Then the fabulous Communication section wind up after consulting with the "engineers" at a meeting that is probably the reason no one is available to take phone calls. The Council is totally responsible for ensuring that work does NOT affect adjoining properties.


blame throwing

Posted on 05-09-2015 20:02 | By rosscoo

people read article it clearly says she has tried to sort with builder and is also flogging her off so she seems to be trying all options to get action from anyone who will listen.


Watchdog

Posted on 05-09-2015 21:33 | By Watchdog

Council must call a halt to all the work. Must cordon off the area on both sides. Imagine if a little kid was walking either above and leaned against the fence, or below, and it collapsed killing the kid. There would be some serious action then. One trip out. Talk to the neighbour, take photos, document the date time of commencement - find the chap who did it and demand restoration immediately. This fence will fall over from what I can see. And more costs will be involved. A complete retaining wall must be done. Probably the whole fence will need to come down so that the fence can be done properly. What a shambles. He's in breach of his permit, obviously.


Lets here from the Mayor

Posted on 05-09-2015 21:46 | By Merlin

Beaurocracy gone made from the Council.You are in CHARGE Mr Mayor do something.


REPLACE

Posted on 06-09-2015 09:15 | By Feruno

The council . Their ARROGANCE is unbelievable . THEY are the ones who you have to get any building consent/monitoring/authorization , so THEY are RESPONSIBLE for this MESS . Council must get off their $1000 luxury office chairs and sort this mess out instead of thinking up new ways to harass and rip off the people who put them there . ROLL ON COUNCIL ELECTIONS


@BullshitAlert

Posted on 06-09-2015 11:27 | By Colleen Spiro

Come on - WHY DOES THE COUNCIL NEED TO BE INVOLVED????? For goodness sake....A building consent was issued and the earthworks had to be signed off at a certain time....more time, more erosion. This lady is a ratepayer....damn straight, she should be getting answers AND action.


It's easy to rag on the Council...

Posted on 06-09-2015 11:44 | By morepork

... but the real "bad guy" here is the incompetent builder. This is a horror show and he should be made to take action. (Maybe he already is, hope so) Our Rates should not be used to resolve this kind of dispute; it should be pursued through the Courts if no timely action is taken. Every sympathy for the lady concerned.


MacBeth

Posted on 07-09-2015 10:40 | By Well Read

Sounds like Ms MacBeth has turned a neighbourly dispute into a William Shakespeare novel! The builder has obviously done the damage and doesnt know what he is doing. Why should my rates pay for Council to send out their engineers and everyone else including cleaning up her dirty boot mess when she should get her own lawyer. She obvously didnt listen to the people at Council and sounds worse than the Scottish King himself!The builder caused the damage and is liable, take him to court MacBeth dont blame Council the builder did it!


@kiaora2u

Posted on 08-09-2015 09:54 | By BullShtAlert

Who said earthworks have been signed off? I'm fairly sure they haven't been. If you want to be taken seriously you need to get the facts right. If I take your point to its illogical conclusion the next time I have any sort of argument with a neighbour I'll phone the council and have a whine.


Who helps??

Posted on 08-09-2015 23:27 | By Ellajj

I expect if I was in the same situation I would be calling on council to help. And if I did that and I didn't hear back time and time again ...then it's the councils fault if I have to traipse through with muddy boots and get the local media involved to highlight my case. If all it takes is to get a laywer to take on the builder, then the council should have told Mrs McBeth that. I wouldn't know where to start if this happened on my property with an uncooperative builder.


Bullshtalert

Posted on 09-09-2015 13:57 | By Kenworthlogger

If you read Kiaora2u s comments you will see they have not said anything has been signed off by council. What they have said is they had to be signed off by council by a certain time. Looks like you cannot read


I wonder?

Posted on 09-09-2015 16:06 | By Silent Lambs

If the builder is a "Master Builder" member? Perhaps they should be asked to get involved here. Clearly the builder needs help and assistance to get his job done right from the get go.


Consent needed first

Posted on 09-09-2015 16:08 | By Silent Lambs

Perhaps this also highlights the issues with TCC consent processes being slow and unable to get things dne efficiently. Like that is nothing new at all in TCC on anything.


Public Servants?

Posted on 09-09-2015 22:55 | By Silent Lambs

I think that the no show for a meeting that is TCC's alone to fix and sort is totally unacceptable, disgusting level of service, lack of responsibility and worst they are all paid way to much to behave like this, bring on the next election, time for a serious clean out of the upper layers of the cake here including elected members that have failed to act, do and provide the results voters need and demanded last election.


Outrageous

Posted on 10-09-2015 15:47 | By peecee09

This poor woman should not have to put up with this disgraceful performance by the builder and the Council.Council , just stop the buck passing and fix this now. Take the builder to court if you have to but you are ultimately the body responsible for ensuring this job complies with the consent YOU issued. Your lack of action is deplorable.


PC09

Posted on 11-09-2015 22:05 | By Silent Lambs

That is the truth of it.


No show at meeting

Posted on 12-09-2015 00:44 | By Silent Lambs

This sadly shows all just how bad it is at TCC, a failure to show at a meeing to sort out why TCC has not done what they should have already sorted, perhaps not even permitted to have occured in the first place. All this sits at teh feet of TCC, no question about it. So what happens next, Naomi sues Council and Council sues the builder and the digger operator and anyone else involved. What an absolute lawyers heaven it is. In the end ratepayers will end up with all the bills and not even know, not even not how much costs, lawwyers and also the huge amount of staff time wasted on all of this.


Remember the name

Posted on 16-09-2015 15:04 | By GreertonBoy

of the builder... and definitely don't use his services.... a 2 year old could see that digging away the dirt from the fence post footings is not a good thing to do...to leave it like that for months is simply ridiculous. I hope when the lady wins and gets to replace her fence, she doesn't let THAT builder have anything to do with its construction! RIP the swan plant, BTW


GreertonBoy

Posted on 18-09-2015 17:58 | By Plonker

Agree completely, I would expect that the job done is a shocker, created all the trouble here and no interesting in getting it right.


Update?

Posted on 18-09-2015 19:51 | By Ellajj

I'd love to know if any progress has been made with this? Also I'd be keen to know the name of the builder!


Ellajj

Posted on 21-09-2015 14:53 | By Plonker

Yes we should know what is happening. This is but the tip of the iceberg.


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