Museum delay costly

The Tauranga City Council called on Graeme Purches to help investigate and advise on the controversial museum proposal.

He was part of the steering group that came up with a site and a plan to make the museum work. But five years later the proposal remains stalled and the servant has turned on his masters.


A museum right here on Cliff Road please? Graeme Purches of the museum steering group. Picture by Tracy Hardy.

Graeme says the city's 'current crop of hand-sitting elected representatives” should be held accountable by ratepayers.

'Keep track of what councillors are saying and not doing, and make appropriate decisions at the ballot box next year.”

He has singled out the mayor for special mention. Graeme says Stuart Crosby's suggestion the museum be in the CBD had the effect of 'destroying the project before it even started”.

'So much for his ‘vision' for the city,” says Graeme.

Graeme spent a year helping research the museum proposal, possible sites, design and funding opportunities. The steering group included Mayor Stuart Crosby.

That was five years ago and now Graeme has 'had enough”.

'We need to get on with it. We need to create an infrastructure appropriate for a city of Tauranga's size and status. There needs to be significant change or Tauranga will drift into big city pretence and small village reality. And this lot seem hell bent on doing that.

'It's a shame that the museum has been allowed to drag on over two election cycles during which time costs have increased significantly and we are getting nowhere fast.”

The museum steering group evaluated 17 sites, delivered a report to council short-listing three and recommending one: Cliff Road.

Cliff Road was preferred because the land is owned by council, it's part of a historic precinct including the Elms and the redoubt, and it had commanding views which offered other income opportunities such as a restaurant. It was also suggested the art gallery be re-sited there to share overheads, also providing a cultural experience to attract paying visitors and stop bleeding tourists to Rotorua.

'But here we are, midway through another term of office, and there's either memory loss or unwillingness because we are getting nowhere fast. Half a decade has been wasted by this council and its predecessors.”

SunLive asked the Tauranga City Council if and when it would act on the steering group recommendations.

The council says it set up the Tauranga Moana Museum Trust to do the job and 'to foster community support, to plan, fund, build and operate a museum.”

But Graeme says the trust isn't doing its job.

'Instead of progressing the recommendations of the steering group study, it has been looking at alternative sites at the Mount.”

The council says it will 'continue to engage with the trust to determine an appropriate way forward.” But Graeme believes the trust hasn't delivered and the council needs to set up a trust that will.

But any support for the museum proposal is conditional on 'the feasibility and the business case”.

The council committed $100,000 to the trust to assist its resource consent costs. Then it was withdrawn. The trust also asked the council for another $100,000 for an independent feasibility study and a project development officer. That was declined.

However, Graeme says the council was right in deciding against spending $40,000 on another survey to gauge ratepayer's appetite for a museum.

'We know more than 50 per cent of people want a museum, but they just don't want to pay for it. That's a given. But that $40,000 would best be spent educating ratepayers on the steering group feasibility plan for the museum.”

The plan addresses ratepayer concerns and works like this: the council would provide the Cliff Road land, which it already owns, and resource consents. A museum trust would raise the funds needed to build and operate the museum. 'Ratepayers would contribute nothing more than the $470,000 they pay now each year for storing a collection no-one can see.”

Graeme wonders if museum proposal knockers have actually seen what's in the Tauranga Heritage Collection, where the city's museum artefacts being held in storage at a Mt Maunganui warehouse.

'This lot [the council] are starting to peeve me off. They appear to be driven by letters to the editor, anonymous blogs, failed politicians and others who've done nothing for our city except moan and push their own empty little barrows with no consideration for the big picture.”

Graeme says he's been told by a councillor that they are still keen on the museum proposal. 'Well, you wouldn't think so. Why won't they stick their heads up?”

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35 comments

Throwing his toys out!

Posted on 29-08-2015 12:27 | By Mackka

Poor Graeme - things are not going his way at all! I wonder where he gets the idea that over 50% of people want a museum? Thank God we have a council who have drawn the line at such folly! Those who want a museum can go to Rotorua or the other dozens of museums close by if they are interested enough to actually visit a museum. Seen one and you have seen them all as they all trot out the same old stuff - mostly Maori artefacts. A museum won't keep the tourists in Tga - Rotorua has an abundance of interesting sights to visit. The ratepayers would inevitably end up supporting the venture - just as we do the'Art Gallery'! NO - WE DO NOT WANT A MUSEUM! FORGET IT GRAEME!!


Nice have

Posted on 29-08-2015 12:40 | By Bop man

A museum is a nice have for the city, council needs to focus on thing we need like storm water and sewage etc. and why do we need to build a new building can't an existing building be used.


Graeme is right, but?

Posted on 29-08-2015 12:56 | By Annalist

It certainly would be fair enough if the ratepayer contribution was simply the money currently being spent on storage fro the artifacts. But the problem is we heard that before in regards to the Art Gallery. It was claimed to be a one off one million, but now the ratepayers seem to have to cough nearly that amount every year. If we could be sure of the cost being strictly limited to that of the current storage it would be a big yes from me.


Immoral do-gooders do no good

Posted on 29-08-2015 13:05 | By The Tomahawk Kid

The delay is NOT costly - the delay has saved ratepayers billions! Only once those who demand ratepayers pay for a museum will it become costly. There is nothing moral about demanding that others pay for something that is on your wishlist. If those who want a museum got off their backsides and did something constructive towards achieving it - and I dont mean GANG UP on the council to force them into providing it - then THAT would be moral and admirable. Graeme Purchase peeves ME off because he wants to FORCE other people to do things HE thinks is for their own good! What is moral or admirable about that? There is MORE to the "big picture" than demand council take another mortgage out on the earnings of the ratepayers.


I just......

Posted on 29-08-2015 14:01 | By groutby

cannot get my head around this issue...so many do NOT want the museum and other "nice to have" stuff, and yet it is still seemingly on "the table". maybe 5-10 years along the track, just wait and see how much the new (and I am sure it will be NEW) TCC building will cost us due to the incompetence of some within the very organisation..I bet there will be some 'backtracking" then !!


Have the commenters actually read the story?

Posted on 29-08-2015 14:04 | By Annalist

I believe Graeme has correctly stated that people want a museum BUT don't want to pay for it. I think he is right. Reading further he makes the condition that ratepayers would pay no more than they currently pay to store bits and pieces in a warehouse somewhere. Surely that actually makes sense? But it would have to be a watertight and unchangeable condition with no surprises and no backdowns.


Hicksville, BoP?

Posted on 29-08-2015 14:18 | By Jenny Argante

Where is the economic sense in paying millions to store artefacts unseen year after year after year? And who are the Goths and Philistines who cannot accept that the arts and culture bring visitors and income to a city? And please don't say 'we' when you mean 'I.' The first proposal for a museum was made on 11th April 1938. Anywhere else it would be a matter-of-fact addition to a growing thriving city, relished by residents and visitors alike. Anywhere else but Hicksville, BoP.


You are so right Jenny,

Posted on 29-08-2015 14:37 | By astex

There is NO "economic sense in paying millions to store artefacts unseen year after year after year?" so why not sell them off or are they so worthless no-one would want them? Just a thought, if so many people would be drawn to the city by a museum why has a commercial company built it by now?


With you.....

Posted on 29-08-2015 14:40 | By Jimmy Ehu

Graeme, also move the Historic Village remains up there, and also build new council building!, and why has the retiring Creative Tauranga director been able to garner all the "Arts" finance for all her pet projects, without being hypercritical is there not other sectors in the "Arts" community that should have been listened too!!!!, all this should have been incorporated in the waterfront makeover, with any vision, how about a multi purpose, functioning museum?.


These museum peopple are slow learners

Posted on 29-08-2015 15:05 | By Chapsmate

The people of Taauranga and District have clearly told the council - NO!! to any proposal for a museum to be built at ratepayers expence. It is about time these fossils who are bleating about building a museum pull their collective heads in, and set about raising funds themselves if such a building is deemed to be so necessary. The museum at Katikati - with an accompanying excellent tea rooms, closed down because the owner could no longer afford to maintan it. Yes, I am aware he was also beginning to get as old as some of his exhibits! The signs are clear. More than half of the people in Tauranga and district do not want to fund a museum. Another half are not in the least bit ingterested. What sort of a percentage really wanat such a facility then?


Jenny, the issue is.........

Posted on 29-08-2015 15:59 | By groutby

.that you have no fiscal sense whatsoever, the "Goths and Philistines" you strangely refer to will be the people who are being asked to pay for something that is (as I said before) on the "nice to do " list, currently economically unviable. You believe a museum will bring "visitors and income" to the City..not so..you must be reasonably new to the region to not realise that we are indeed have the best climate, beaches and (one day, council permitting) shopping in the whole of NZ.Do name for me..one, just one (with figures please) recognised Museum in NZ which is self funding..for if this is true, please have no hesitation in applying for building consent and going "for it" yourself. I hope you make and enormous profit,..however you know you wont, you just want us (and yes I do mean "us", not "I")..to pay for it don't you?


Is it worth it?

Posted on 29-08-2015 16:52 | By dgk

Do we actually have anything worth putting on display at a museum that people will pay to see? If so, modify the storage facility so that locals can pay to view this amazing treasure. Just as a test to prove the point :)


Oh Dear

Posted on 29-08-2015 17:08 | By Jitter

The wheel goes around and around and the same pointless arguments are thrown up. Why doesn't Graeme Purchase get off his butt and raise the money as he is so keen for Tauranga to have a museum. Let's see how he gets on. It is obviously not easy otherwise the Museum Trust would have made some progress.The current collection in storage ratepayers cannot see is quote "75% not worth putting on display, and should either be returned to the donors or dumped." unquote. Why should ratepayers still have to pay $470,000 a year for storage if the items are on display in the proposed museum ? This defeats the purpose of a museum. To cover and recoup costs charge an entry fee of $5.00 to $10.00 to cover maintenance etc.


Bankrupt

Posted on 29-08-2015 17:15 | By hapukafin

Why are Museums closing down around us?Some are only staying open because of volunteers.Take TECT away which are rate payers and what have we got.


Hear Hear Graeme

Posted on 29-08-2015 17:54 | By MamaCass

Don't listen to the naysayers - the ones that will never have their narrow minds changed. The Tauranga museum collection is vast and impressive (from what I hear, as I have yet to see it displayed as we HAVEN'T GOT A MUSEUM) and I, as a rate payer and Tauranga local, stand by you 100%. Our city and it's tight fisted whinging residents need to grow up.This is for our future generations to appreciate - these negative people need to get out and get educated - this is our history.Embrace it or lose it.


NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted on 30-08-2015 15:29 | By Kenworthlogger

What part of NO do these people not understand???


do we throw out the currently stored stuff?

Posted on 30-08-2015 16:34 | By Annalist

So what do we do with the currently stored objects that it costs $470,000 to take care of? Isn't Graeme's proposal actually quite sensible? Limit ratepayers contribution to the $470,000 (I know we have to be careful given the art gallery experience). Then if they can fund the rest with other money (difficult but give Graeme a chance) it's obviously the way to go.


Jenny...a request from a

Posted on 31-08-2015 20:16 | By groutby

to give us an example of one, just one..recognised museum that is 'self funding"..there is much call when it comes to spending other peoples money, but this all goes very, very quiet if there were a need to spend your own eh?


Mamacass

Posted on 05-09-2015 15:49 | By Kenworthlogger

Put your own money where your mouth is and start donating your cash to the museum. Let the rest of us decide what we want to do with our money. This is called democracy.


@ hapukafin

Posted on 08-09-2015 21:56 | By Silent Lambs

Yes agree, look at Katikati, volunteer labour, guarantee ex ratepayers and finacially failed. Auckland Museum costs its ratespayers mega tens of millions a year. Council made it clear to the Museum-ite-leeches brigade, go find the money elsewhere. The proble is that they cant. The only suckers around usually are Councillors that put their hand in everyones elses pocket to pay for these things, from rates. There are many examples in the last 10-15 years and only when all has been spent and all has been borrowed can they muster a sensible decision. Send Graeme and his self desires off packing somewhere else than the ratepayers purse I say.


Common sense

Posted on 09-09-2015 14:30 | By DAD

If there is so much valuable stuff in storage then sell it to Auckland Museum and bring down the debt of council! We do not need a museum in Tauranga as Mackka said, seen one you have seen them all. The Art Gallery runs at a loss as would a Museum, The majority of Tga residence are elderly and cannot afford higher rates to cover such things! We have beautiful beaches not promoted enough!


Yes DAD

Posted on 09-09-2015 23:02 | By Silent Lambs

I believe you are correct, although there is no Counciil mug enough to pay anything for it, any of it. The right place for storage is Maleme Street, they have teh perfect facilities to manage and deal with it and of course display it all in a manner befitting what it all really is.


Museum delay?

Posted on 13-09-2015 18:54 | By Silent Lambs

Costly? Not at all in fact the oposite is the case, in fact if it can bw avoided completely then Tauranga will be some $50 million better off upfront and about $10 annually. There is the cost saving in delay, better if it was permanent by canning it before it starts.


Museum

Posted on 14-09-2015 19:12 | By Ngaere

Of course Tauranga should have a museum. The stored artefacts are wasted out of sight. A city of Taurangas size should capitalise on the tourism and visitor numbers that are travelling through the area. A museum is definitely the next step in keeping Tauranga an appealing growth region where people wish to live and work.


OMG Five years in the making

Posted on 15-09-2015 15:16 | By ROCCO

and despite all the claptrap this fiscal pack of clowns seemingly cannot come up with one genuine dollar towards the inane project -they poopah options continually pontificate and then want the bloody Taj Mahal lookalike at the sole cost of TCC Ratepayers namely buildings, land and all operating costs lock stock and barrel.Talk about sitting on your hands these idiots have got rigor mortis they are so inept and inactive.Councillors please put them out of their miserable existence once and for all and do us all a favour.WOFTAM


Another thought.........

Posted on 15-09-2015 15:32 | By ROCCO

It looks like the orange cone would fit nicely as a symbolic gesture too.


Ngaere

Posted on 17-09-2015 14:26 | By Kenworthlogger

You sound pretty naive. No one that moves to Tauranga does so because of a museum. The thought of it is laughable.


Ideas

Posted on 20-09-2015 16:30 | By Plonker

Graeme seems to think that there is an endless pot of money available for the extravagant ideas, desires and whims of but a few. I don't really care for these ideas or if they want them, all I ask is that don't ask me to pay a penny towards what you want, what is your hobby horse and means of a grand stand.


ROCCO

Posted on 22-09-2015 11:51 | By Plonker

One assumes you mean that he should wear it? A brightly coloured pointy head would result, is that a good idea? I would hasten to add that the bright colour may well be the only thing that is "bright" fro it all.


No

Posted on 22-09-2015 16:47 | By Kenworthlogger

I think Rocco was meaning using it as an instrament to find where the sunshine is coming from.


Good ole council

Posted on 23-09-2015 14:17 | By So

Very occasionally they get something right, like delaying the museum that so few want.


@ So

Posted on 24-09-2015 16:04 | By Plonker

That is far from perfect for ratepayers. TCC has still needlessly thrown money at the Museum idea, like $100,000 to budget, feasibility and business plan etc. We all know the result but the money must have been creatively used to creatively produce a result that was wanted by the scribes involved. Despite no one wanting it, no one wanting to pay for it and that it is of little value to the local economy TCC are still leaking rates money for it every year.


museum steering group

Posted on 24-09-2015 16:16 | By Plonker

By the results that they have come up with looks to be more of a wish list than anything realistic or practical and achievable. The whole game seems to be about "I want" rather then looking at anything realistic, they certainly were meant to sort out a business plan that would mean no funding from TCC, look at it, they expect free land, free consent, free entry for locals (means a ratepayer bill of some $5 million pa) and that is before anything is even built.


Raise money?

Posted on 24-09-2015 18:11 | By Plonker

I can not see where this committee in 5 years have raised a single penny towards the planned extravagant massive grandiose edifice. If that is the case clearly there is no community support, no commercial support and especially no financial support anywhere for it.


Excessive ask of Museum Commitee

Posted on 28-09-2015 11:17 | By Plonker

To be expected to raise $30 million odd to build a huge monument on Cliff Road, all sounds like utter pipe dreams of a massive scale. Add to that the need also to find say $5 million per annum to cover the losses annually and forever rising means the task is impossible to achieve. That being the case then why should ratepayers be harassed and committed to pay these huge costs for just a few leeches around the place who are not prepared to pay for their own hobby.


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